Have you heard this?

by AK - Jeff 3 Replies latest jw friends

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    "Well, I understand your frustration with religion/god/bible/Christianity/etc. After all you had been raised in a 'false' religion. Too bad you have turned your back on religion/god/bible/Christianity/etc, and are unable to see the 'real truth' of religion/god/bible/Christianity/etc due to your jaded view now!"

    Or substance thereof.

    Seems as if every friendship I have struck with a Christian [on this board, on FB, out in the non-digital world] has gone just like that.

    This last week I pointed out to one of my friends that lunacy of Harold Camping and his rapture date [today]. And the reply I heard was, in essence, the above. I am particularly bothered when it is a former Jw who is saying such things. Can't they see that they have just changed the object of their loyalty, but continued to use the same delusional mindset?

    Christian: "Oh, I have the real truth now - I left the 'false' truth behind."

    Me: "Do you worship the same god now?"

    Christian: "Yes, but I have found him to be soooooo much different than the god I worshiped in the former'truth'. So perhaps I should say no, it is not the same god at all"

    Me: "But didn't you find him in the same book?"

    Christian: "Yes, but I understand that book now. God is not like we thought he was back in the other 'truth'."

    Me: "But didn't you leave the other 'truth' because of 'men's interpretation of God'?"

    Christian: "Yes."

    Me: "And so how is god interpreted now for you?"

    Christian: "I have come to know him according to the Bible's real explanation of him now."

    Me: "But couldn't your 'new truth' explanation/understanding be just as flawed, or more so, than your former 'truth' about god?"

    Christian: "Oh no. I have come to know him now."

    Me: "You didn't think you had come to know him then?"

    Christian: "Yes, but that explanation was flawed."

    On and on and on yadda yadda.

    Dizziness soon overtakes me due to the circular reasoning used to promote a newer and better understanding/relationship either inside or outside religion. And they all feel so sorry FOR ME.

    Jeff

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    Jeff, if you keep having those circular conversations with Christians, one of these days your head will explode.

  • Podobear
    Podobear

    None so blind as those who will not see... None so deaf as those who will not hear.

    I have the same nonplussed spirit, Jeff

    All the best

  • transhuman68
    transhuman68

    David Kelsey did a study in 1975 that showed each Christian religion has its own set of scriptures that they refer to- different from every other Christian religion. So, same bible, supposedly the same god, but... different. Gotta love the Bible- play it like a guitar...

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