VERY IMPORTANT: UK JW CONGREGATION LOSES CASE!!!!

by Viva la Vida 9 Replies latest jw friends

  • Viva la Vida
    Viva la Vida

    I've tried to publish this several times but it doesn't work. You can check the ruling here:

    http://www.charity.tribunals.gov.uk/documents/decisions/Tayo-etc-decision-09Apr15.pdf

  • cofty
    cofty

    Downloaded to read later, thanks.

    Am I right in saying this was the appeal by the borg to stop the Charity Commission inquiry?

  • cofty
    cofty

    It appears that they were trying to distance themselves from the appalling way the congregation handled the matter. The judge saw right through that and cited the Elder's manual as evidence that it was official policy.

    Brilliant!


    73. Finally, we were concerned that, although Mr Clayton accepted in his skeleton argument that the disfellowshipping process for Mr Rose was poorly-handled, there was other material before us which suggested that the arrangement of a confrontation 20 of an accuser by their accused, as happened in Mr Rose’s case, is official guidance for Jehovah’s Witness Congregations. We particularly noted the “Elders’ Handbook” paragraph 39 in this regard.

  • nicolaou
    nicolaou
    Downloaded. Many thanks, will read this in the morning.
  • PlatinumFix
    PlatinumFix
    Point 71 is interesting. Safeguarding is becoming increasingly important for organisations with the introduction of the Care Act (2014).
  • cofty
    cofty

    I have just finished reading the ruling.

    The society get criticised by the judge on many grounds. It is a very interesting read.

    They are experts at obfuscation.

    It is as if they have no awareness that they should share the concerns of the CC to ensure best practice in relation to child protection.

    The role of the non-charitable umbrella body known as the "Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses" is a devious ploy. The judge saw right through it.

  • nicolaou
    nicolaou

    The attempt to equate a review with an intrusion into their right to worship was particularly lame I thought. Definitely worth an hour over coffee to read and digest but if you just want something to share on social media try this;

    http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/jehovahs-witnesses-body-again-told-cannot-appeal-opening-statutory-inquiry/governance/article/1342175

  • konceptual99
    konceptual99

    Looks to me like the WTS and the local congregation were lucky that the Charities Commission cocked up a few times otherwise it could have been worst for them.

    It also really highlights how exposed local congregation elders are. They have no idea what their real obligations are as far as being trustees is concerned and how Bethel will squirm to get out of their responsibilities.

  • Slidin Fast
    Slidin Fast

    This excerpt demonstrates the slippery tactics used to distance themselves from any responsibility. Note this faceless, unaccountable body "The Christian Association of Jehovah's Witnesses". Note the fact that the CS assigns a different body of elders to hold the JC. The person to nail in my mind is the CS. Who employs him, who does he represent?

    Mr Cook (who is the in-house solicitor at the Watchtower) later elaborated on his own letter in a witness statement for the Tribunal. He explained that the “Circuit Overseer” had taken advice from a body called “The Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses” (a non- charitable unincorporated association which provides spiritual guidance to congregations) about this issue. In accordance with that advice, he says “The Trustees of the New Moston Congregation...did not select the elders who conducted the disfellowshipping and had no control over the process they followed”.
  • PokerPlayerPhil
    PokerPlayerPhil
    Crofty is it proper for Elders of Jehovah's Witnesses to have Child Molesters interrogate their victims and how did this brief by the Judge view that? That's how JWs have handled their child abuse inquiries, they go against all current psychology and therapist school views that you don't put victims and perps in the same room unless it's before a judge and jury, not some janitors playing judicial expert!

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