JW's Speak For Brother Beliz

silentlambs

I have added the letters from friends and family in behalf of Manuel Beliz to the court. The button is on the front page of the website. It is odd that the letter seem to follow a similar pattern to the testimony in the Paul Berry sentencing hearing. They are introduced with the following papagraph:

The following are letters given in private to Judge Miller in a notebook early on the morning of Manuel Beliz’s sentencing hearing. Many of these letters are offered by family members and all of them are composed by Jehovah’s Witnesses. If you notice the way they are written they seem to follow a pattern in how they are composed. Do you think the home office of Jehovah’s Witnesses gave them coaching tips on what to say? That will remain to be seen. Also note the references to Brother Beliz preaching activity, going door to door, as being evidence of how well he was doing. Once again, a few chose to mention that they wanted this twice convicted child molester to baby sit their children. The truth is truly stranger than fiction.

slipnslidemaster

I was skeptical of this claim at first, I admit. However, after reading most of the letters, I have to agree with you. There is a definite pattern to most of them.

Knowing him their whole life or X amount of time.
BBQ's and family gatherings.
Highlight any contact with children and no reason to fear him.

I should know better. I'm disgusted with myself for even being skeptical. I know damn well that the legal department and the Societies lawyers have coached anyone that wants to listen.

However, I note that they can't seem to stop them from using JW terminology and buzz words.

Slipnslidemaster: "Just because I look sexy on the cover of Rolling Stone doesn't mean I'm naughty."
- Britney Spears

Gopher

For those who wish to view the site, the link below wasn't working. I had to type in the URL: http://www.silentlambs.com (rather than .org).

Most of the letters were from JW relatives of his, and they all seemed to say "he's a good, honest, decent man who made a mistake". What a way to minimize the grotesque deeds he did over a period of time. Remember, he was convicted beyond reasonable doubt.

Most stunning was the assertion by his parents "this could have been settled amongst themselves". How many times did Erica seek justice within the JW system, only to be turned aside? Her parents' comments betray the excuse-seeking thinking of those loyal to the JW organization. Impartial people can see through this smoke screen.

Thanks for putting up the letters. They reveal a groupthink mentality and lack of compassion for the humanity of the real victim. They make out Mr. Beliz to be the victim. Oh how screwed up that is!

GopherWhy shouldn't truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense.
Mark Twain (1835-1910)

wheelwithinwheel

Coaching ? Ha,Ha,Ha...

When it comes to « defending Jehovah’s name » nothing is spared or left to chance

There was a child custody case where the J.W’s had to win - the KH was converted into a court room and J.W lawyers grilled witnesses for days showing them the « appropriate way » to answer questions from Satan’s forces. All the locals involved were quite impressed to learn it was all in the way something is put ... but then we all know that over the years the WT have had to become experts at this game

Scully

wheelwithinwheel writes:

There was a child custody case where the J.W’s had to win - the KH was converted into a court room and J.W lawyers grilled witnesses for days showing them the « appropriate way » to answer questions from Satan’s forces. All the locals involved were quite impressed to learn it was all in the way something is put ... but then we all know that over the years the WT have had to become experts at this game

This happened in my parents' congregation as well. My mother was told she would be called as a character witness for the young woman (prodigal JW daughter) she had been conducting a study with. The WTS lawyers came in and coached her plus 3 other JW 'witnesses' as to what to say to all kinds of questions that might be asked.

They were instructed to deny that JWs believe that the world is under the control of the Devil.

They were instructed to deny that JW children are not permitted to participate in school celebrations of holidays or birthdays, and are strongly discouraged to participate in extracurricular activities.

The lawyers spent 2 weeks, Monday - Friday, 9am - 5pm, preparing these 4 people. Two of them were pioneers, and were allowed to count their time; my mom and her friend were not allowed to do so.

The lawyers relied heavily on the use of "Theocratic War Strategy". I wonder how many judges and lawyers know about Theocratic War Strategy.....

Love, Scully

In the desert things find a way to survive. Secrets are like this too. They work their way up through the sands of deception so men can know them. - The X Files

messenger

From another post on "theocratic war strategy"

*** w57 5/1 285 Use Theocratic War Strategy ***
Use Theocratic War Strategy
Perhaps some will wonder as to where the line is to be drawn between use of theocratic war strategy in hiding the truth and the telling of lies. First of all, let it be noted that whenever one takes an oath to tell the truth he is obligated to do so.
Lies are untruths told for selfish reasons and which work injury to others. ..... But hiding the truth, which he is not entitled to know, from an enemy does not harm him, especially when he would use such information to harm others who are innocent.
A great work is being done by the witnesses even in lands where their activity is banned. ...... So in time of spiritual warfare it is proper to misdirect the enemy by hiding the truth. It is done unselfishly; it does not harm anyone; on the contrary, it does much good.
Today God’s servants are engaged in a warfare, a spiritual, theocratic warfare, a warfare ordered by God against wicked spirit forces and against false teachings. God’s servants are sent forth as sheep among wolves and therefore need to exercise the extreme caution of serpents so as to protect properly the interests of God’s kingdom committed to them. At all times they must be very careful not to divulge any information to the enemy that he could use to hamper the preaching work.
[Footnotes]
For details see The Watchtower, February 1, 1956.
*** w56 2/1 86 Cautious as Serpents Among Wolves ***
38 It is proper to cover over our arrangements for the work that God commands us to do. If the wolfish foes draw wrong conclusions from our maneuvers to outwit them, no harm has been done to them by the harmless sheep, innocent in their motives as doves. The action is not out of a liar’s hatred. “He that hideth hatred is of lying lips; and he that uttereth a slander is a fool. A lying tongue hateth those whom it hath wounded.”—Prov. 10:18; 26:28, AS.
*** w56 2/1 87 Cautious as Serpents Among Wolves ***
41 Serpentlike caution is to be exercised only while the sheep are among wolves or in contact with them. Jesus did not advise this among the congregation of Jehovah’s people, for all of these are sheep. So it is as much a rule for spiritual Israel of today as it was for natural Israel of old: “You people must not steal and you must not deceive and you must not lie any one to his associate. And you must not swear in my name to a lie, so that you do profane the name of your God. I am Jehovah.” (Lev. 19:11, 12, NW) In these days since A.D. 1919 when Jehovah has restored the remnant of spiritual Israel and their dedicated companions to his pure worship, his prophetic instructions are: “These are the things that ye shall do: Speak ye every man the truth with his neighbor; execute the judgment of truth and peace in your gates; and let none of you devise evil in your hearts against his neighbor; and love no false oath: for all these are things that I hate, saith Jehovah.” (Zech. 8:3, 16, 17, AS) The apostle Paul himself applies these words to sanctified Christians, the “Israel of God.”—Eph. 4:25; Gal. 6:16.

belbab

Where exactly are these letters? I clicked on every button I could find on Silentlambs site and could not find them. Exactly which button, please?

belbab

silentlambs

Click on the button that says;

"Erica's 2001 Sent. Hearing-What Jw's Said"

It is the line of buttons right above the questions about one third down the page.

Satanus

Scully & Wheel

WOW!! That borders on obstructing justice, or conspiracy to obstruct justice.

SS

hawkaw

Thanks for that information Scully.

Interesting stuff. Seeing you are a Canadian I have no doubt that you know Mr. How.

Oddly I had a long talk with Bob Harvey, Religious writer with the Ottawa Citizen. He told me that he held Mr. How in high regard because of his legal work in freedom of religion cases and the changes he has brought about.

I informed Harvey that How has brought about freedom for relgious corporations only and is a big believer in "not" allowing freedom of conscience of religion for individual witnesses and other people. I then sited many examples of JW doctrines, the Flock book and finally the "Theocratic War Strategy" of 1958.

Of course like most press people, Mr. Harvey just swept me under the rug and went back to his high regard for Mr. How (at least for now that is).

hawk

JW's Speak For Brother Beliz

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