Watchtower Sex Standards Are Cruel, Unjustified and Unreasonable

by metatron 8 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  metatron

  I was inspired to write the above verbose title after I took a tour of a science museum that offered an indepth display of an Egyptian man's life during the late Ptolemaic period. Bluntly put, he was worn out and falling apart by his early 30's. Dying before 35 was commonplace as adult life expectancy was very low compared to today. The Roman Empire wasn't much different (and might have been even worse)

  And puberty? Well, that's been dropping rather dramatically.

  See: http://moreintelligentlife.com/content/ideas/fiona-neill/puberty-blues

  So, let's put this all together: During the time our popular Biblical standards were being set, it was very possible that a boy would hit full physical maturity by 18 (!!!!) , get married, have kids and die of 'natural causes' (disease, dental abcesses, war, violence or whatever) about a decade later.

  The gap of time between sexual maturity and marriage might have been surprizingly short or maybe even no gap at all, in some agarian cultures. It's possible that they barely had time to masturbate in a single state !

  And the rest? Fidelity for maybe a decade as you fall apart? Compared to living to 80 today and being expected to be faithful for, what most of a century? Really?

  Yes, there are some fine people who have mastered their domain as to infidelity and the rest, across many years but there's also been a great deal of fooling around, en masse, as well! Syphilis was widespread. So was prostitution - openly practiced in many US cities to a degree we would find shocking today. And wartime? The US Army puritanically refused to consider the sexual needs of your 'Dough'Boy Grandpaw in Europe during WW1 - resulting in a massive STD problem. They learned their lesson in WW2 and told soldiers about condoms, telling Your Dad or Grandfather to 'put it on before you put it in'.

  Here's the problem in a nutshell: who was the Bible supposedly written for? Not animals, not angels, not plants but humans. And the general definition of what HUMANS ARE HAS CHANGED OVER THE CENTURIES. To the degree that it has, the old standards of sexual morality are cruel, unjust and unreasonable as applied to modern day puberty and adult lifespan.

  C'mon, get real, Watchtower! You still hold to a stupid standard of no masturbation across perhaps the gap between 12 and mid-20's, when there was little or gap in the past? I still respect fidelity and marriage as useful and appropriate but demanding that people cling to these archaic standards is truly unfair. Humans are simply NOT the same creatures they were 2000 years ago.

  metatron
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  Morbidzbaby

  ...and we're changing with each generation! Kids are going through puberty and losing their virginity earlier and earlier. My boyfriend was 11 when he had sex the first time! It's unfair and cruel to hold to a standard that the rest of the world has moved on from. Especially when it comes to sex before marriage and sex between married couples. While some people may choose to wait, or may choose to not do certain things, there shouldn't be a law or rule dictating such.
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  LongHairGal

  METATRON: As somebody who is an eleven year fader and who NEVER discussed sexual matters with strange men, I am baffled at the idea of adults who would voluntarily discuss intimate things with a panel of imperfect men who are probably doing the same thing privately. Never mind that the standard is ridiculous, the idea that you should "confess" it to THEM is ridiculous.
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  elderelite

  Watchtower sex standards are cruel, unjustified and unreasonable

  So are my wifes :-)
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  Dudu

  it is too much stress... teenagers already have their ammount of stress and this rules are just putting things worse
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  cyberjesus

  And where are those standars coming from?..... THE BIBLE! and from whom we received the BIBLE? from God! so blame the writter, not the message nor the messenger.!

  Wait a minute. What if God doesnt exist?
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  Band on the Run

  There is some good insight here. I don't think fidelity is old fashioned. Virginity is treasured in many parts of the world. Sexual urges are biological. God created the sex drives. I don't care what you sex drive is, keep off children. So conformity is necessary sometimes. Gay people have no mastery over being gay. Jehovah in his wisdom created the attraction. To condemn people for biological needs, beyond their control, is obscene.

  Wanton sex is not good for humans or society. Prudence is necessary but sexual morality is either in or out of fashion too often. It says more about the culture than the actual sex does.

  There does seem to be a correlation between being a hypocritcal bigot and being one of the group you are deriding.
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  Balaamsass

  Watchtower VS Bible = big gap

  No mention of masturbation in scriptures. In case of an emmision the man was unclean for the day. - Not Stoned to death.

  Shacking up? You broke it- you bought it. You could simply set up housekeeping and be viewed as Married. Not Stoned to Death.

  The scriptures went into great depth on clothing, beards, where to poop etc. No mention of sex acts between married couples. FRED Franz's ideas of Porneia are lifted from early Catholic writings "things practiced in houses of prostitution".

  Had the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society Governing Body been in charge in Ancient times their would never of been a NATION of Isreal..everyone would have been stoned to death.

  my- 2 cents
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  WTWizard

  How is this: Suppose we force them to buy a car without letting them test drive it. It will be polished to look good, it will have inflated statistics on everything. Then, once they buy it, they find out that it is constantly needing repairs. (Repairs that require specialized equipment to perform, at that.) The car starts like crap, is sluggish at accelerating, and starts becoming unstable at around 70 km/h. Steering is poor, even in city driving. Stopping is long and usually the car veers to one side or the other. It gets pxxx poor gas mileage, on premium gas. Even with 97 octane gas, it runs like a jalopy. You can't get much faster than about 90 km/h--and that speed is very dangerous (and it is roughly 55 MPH, which is generally not a dangerous highway speed).

  Now, you find that you can't get your money back. Once you get this crap car, you are stuck with it for life. You can't even just get another, better one that meets your needs. This is the vehicle you will have to trust your life with. Fact is, even if you get a bicycle and ride that, the car dealer will be hounding you that you need to be faithful to that car. You also find out that, should you have an accident because of this car's unsafe condition, it will still be your fault even though you couldn't find out about it before you bought it or trade it or junk it for another one after. Additionally, the car is impossible for you to fix without highly specialized computers to diagnose issues and tools to make the actual repairs, and impossible to retrofit to use regular parts no matter what.

  The washtowel view of sex is similar. You cannot test-drive marriages, and you are stuck with the one you get for life. Only the hounders are allowed to change the partner, and they will do it according to what the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger wants them to. Most marriages within the cancer are like this unsafe car (which would be recalled if it were new, and would flunk inspection in most countries). Yet, you are not going to be able to junk a bad marriage (they don't flunk inspections or get recalled) when they don't work out. You might not have as spectacular a crash, but you get a lifetime of stagnation that can be as bad.