Boy Dies After Choosing Prayer Over Medicine- Former member of church calls group a cult

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  • whereami
    whereami

    And here I thought the blood issue was bad. Very sad indeed.

    http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/health/May-June-08/Boy-Dies-After-Choosing-Prayer-Over-Medicine.html

    Blog- http://www.religionnewsblog.com/21046/followers-of-christ-2

    Boy Dies After Choosing Prayer Over Medicine

    June 19, 2008 05:07 PM by Rachel Balik A 16-year-old boy in Oregon died of a treatable urinary tract condition after he refused medical help, believing prayer would heal his illness.

    30-Second Summary

    Share Medical examiner Dr. Clifford Nelson called the death of 16-year-old Neil Beagley on June 17 “an absolute waste of a young life.” He said that the boy died of a simple urinary tract condition that could have been treated easily with a catheter. Without treatment, the boy was unable to urinate for a week. He suffered stomach pains and shortness of breath until the toxins in his blood caused heart failure.

    Beagley and his family are members of the Oregon City Followers of Christ Church and believe that prayer, not medical treatment, is the best way to cure illness. Beagley’s niece, 15-month-old Ava Worthington, died in March of an untreated bronchial infection, and her parents have been charged with manslaughter. However, Oregon law states that children over the age of 14 can make their own decisions about treatment, so Beagley’s parents will not face charges. “All of the interviews from last night are that he did in fact refuse treatment," police Sgt. Lynne Benton said.

    However, Ava Worthington was not old enough to legally request or refuse treatment, and her parents will be tried in January. Their defense lawyer says that their Constitutional right to religious freedom has been violated and that “they’ve been called upon by God to face this challenge.” They have set up a Web site to help present their case to the public and raise money for their cause.

    A former Follower of Christ Church member says that the whole group is a cult, but defends the Worthingtons. She says Ava’s parents “are victims too, victims of the church, and they were just following their beliefs that they’ve been taught since they were born.”

    Headline Link: ‘Teen From Faith-Healing Family Refuses Treatment, Dies’

    A catheter would have prevented the heart failure that killed 16-year-old Neil Beagley of Gladstone, Oregon, but he and his parents, who belong to a faith-healing church, never sought medical treatment for the urinary tract condition that poisoned his organs. His parents are not legally responsible for his death because Oregon minors over the age of 14 are allowed to personally make the decision to accept or deny treatment. Police Sgt. Lynne Benton said that “All of the interviews from last night are that he did in fact refuse treatment.” The state cannot press charges unless it can prove that the teen asked for treatment.

    Source: Portland Tribune

    go to site » In the autopsy described in Portland news channel Northwest 8’s video coverage, medical examiner Dr. Clifford Nelson determined that Beagley had a “basic bladder condition” that when left untreated, rendered him unable to urinate. The urea that was backed up in his bloodstream ultimately caused heart failure. The boy had been sick for a week, complaining of severe stomach pains. Nelson suspects that his “final days were excruciating.” The boy’s family and other church members told authorities that he had not wanted medical treatment.

    Source: Northwest News Channel 8

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    Background: Children Dying in Faith-Healing Families

    There were two similar incidents earlier this year of children dying because their parents opted to heal by prayer rather than secure medical treatment. In Wisconsin, Dale and Leilani Neumann were charged with second-degree reckless homicide after their 11-year old daughter Madeline died of diabetes. Meanwhile, Raylene and Charles Brent Worthington were indicted on charges of manslaughter after their 15-month-old daughter Ava (Neil Beagley’s niece) died of a treatable bronchial infection.

    Source: findingDulcinea

    go to site » Raylene and Carl Brent Worthington plan to fight their case, claiming their Constitutional right to religious freedom. They have started a Web site to help present their side of the story to the public. They are the first couple to be charged with a crime under a1999 Oregon law that holds “parents criminally liable for relying solely on prayer for healing their children.” The law was introduced in response to the 1998 death of another child who belonged to the same church as the Worthingtons and the Beagleys. John Neidig, one of the Worthingtons’ defense lawyers, argues that Ava’s condition “might have been treatable, but not necessarily curable in conventional medical terms.” He says that her parents have “been called upon by God to face this challenge."

    Source: The Oregonian

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    Reaction: Victims of Their Own Beliefs

    A former member of the Followers of Christ came forth and called the group a cult. The woman, who refused to be named, spoke up after the March death of Beagley’s niece, 15-month-old Ava Worthington. Although Ava’s parents have been indicted on criminal charges, the former church member said, “Her parents are victims too, victims of the church, and they were just following their beliefs that they’ve been taught since they were born.”

    Source: Religion News Blog
  • Morbidzbaby
    Morbidzbaby

    I'm torn on whether the little girl's parents should be tried for manslaughter or not. On the one hand, they are responsible for making sure she has adequate medical care...on the other, like JW's, they are victims of cult mentality. This causes you to "turn off" your natural affection to a point and rely solely on what the CULT says is right and proper. Some people are more ingrained than others. I knew of a couple who had a child born too early. The father was an inactive JW, but still held onto some of the beliefs. When he realized that his child would indeed die without blood, he decided to allow it. But this was an inactive and already thinking JW who was married to someone in the world. So...how much moreso would it be a struggle for an active JW couple to make such a decision that they feel is directly against god's commandments? Save their child NOW, or take away their chance for eternal life?

    LEGALLY I can see that there was severe negligence resulting in this child's death. Absolutely. But the reasoning behind it wasn't a lack of love, but a lack of intelligence and morality that was forced on them by a cult.

    It's sad that the older boy made the decision he did...but, by law, the decision was his to make. Unfortunately, he was also a victim of cult mentality.

  • guess211
    guess211

    what a sad story.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    I believe that alternative medicine can be as good as, if not better than, allopathic medicine. However, prayer is not "alternative medicine". Prayer is nothing but one aspect of a holistic treatment--others include nutrition, relaxation, and all those other treatments you hear about. But, once a disease gets to a crisis, allopathic medicine is probably going to be needed to get it under control so natural treatment can kick in.

    Prayer as medicine is complete rubbish--you are expecting God to solve the problem. As I see it, all the problem-solvings that Almighty Lowlife Scumbag has already been written down so God can draw you into that instead of solving your problem. You go by what is written (which may or may not even be accurate), while God gets credit for doing nothing. And, in cases like that, if all you do is wait for that Almighty Lowlife Scumbag to do something, it is going to end in disaster.

    And that is not just because prayer as therapy isn't listed in some peer-reviewed, drug ad supported journals. It doesn't work because it relies wholly on a God that doesn't give a fxxx about anyone but his own fat self.

  • Knowsnothing
    Knowsnothing
    Prayer as medicine is complete rubbish- WTWizard

    Not quite. Although not in the way you paint it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo

    However, I agree that this situation could have been avoided. Why couldn't the parents do both? Makes absolutley no sense.

    When fundamentalism goes wrong...

  • flipper
    flipper

    This is just disgusting. Both of these children's parents should be locked up and the key thrown away. Jesus Christ. When will these insane cults and religions ( including Jehovah's Witnesses about blood transfusions ) with their wacked out medical views which endanger their members be held accountable ??? I get so tired of seeing religions and cults skate on by without justice really done and their leaders not held accountable

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    I have to agree with Mr Flipper, there is simply no excuse for allowing your children to die for some weird interpretation by men of what scripture says. part of the reason I am on here is because I do not feel I could refuse any treatment for my children that I cannot see God himself condemns.

    The history of the Blood doctrine as taught by JW's is a strange one I have found out,if it was so important to Jehovah, how come he did not reveal this life and death matter until a few decades ago ? and I challenge any Jehovah's Witness to defend to me, from God's Word, how it stands in its present form.

    I will not risk my children's life for a cult, they are too prescious to me. I love them more than my own life, and certainly more than some men in another country that I have never met who would have me condemn them to death on their dodgy interpretation of scripture.

  • snare&racket
    snare&racket

    Jesus broke a law punishable by death... He worked on the sabbath in order to save a life. For those that still don't connect the dots he even said it was commonplace for people to break this law punishable by death, to save a lamb. How do JWs and alike miss this point when it comes to saving their children? Funny how their scriptural reasoning collapses around them. This is what happens when you don't think for yourself. Such people are not responsible enough to have children. Jehovah once asked Abraham to kill his only firstborn.. Abraham was a weak piece of crap

    Children dying for make belief ancient Jewish mythology...... Real smart.

    Send he parents to jail, let's see how many parents stop going to the doctor then.... "well we have to go darlin' it's Caesars things to Caesar"

    In the UK, the courts are more moral than the god of the bible and JW mothers rely on legal action to save their baby. After knowing several cases I assure you their relief is palpable.

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