The Church, Jehovah's Witnesses, Antisemitism and the Holocaust

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  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    For weeks, I've been reading Constantine's Sword. I believe the author is Carroll. He traces antisemitism from the 1st century, the first generation of Christians. He examines in great detail the limited Christian view that the Old Testament never stood on its own. Its only purpose was to prophesy the coming of Jesus. I've noticed the same strand of thought on here sometimes. The Old Testament books are considered valid only if they are expressly mentioned in the New Testament. Of course, the formation of a NT canon is not considered. It appeared by magic.

    I had no idea how intertwined Christian hatred of Jews was through the centuries. The Jews were convenient scapegoats. In the past, I thought that the Catholic Church erred by not resisting Nazis. Not a single Nazi, including Hitler, was ever excommunicated from the church. The Church felt threatened by modernity and saw Bolshevism as the great evil. Hitler was a convenient ally. Sometimes Popes would protect Jews in the Roman ghetto when other bishops were arranging mass slaughters.

    He did not trace the Protestant response which left me feeling shortchanged. Efforts still go on to give the WWII Pope sainthood.

    I simply had no idea how persistent the Jew hatred was. Not a single public word from the Vatican when Jews were rounded up in Rome itself. So one would think this upstart religion that views itself as perfect would be the model for not Jew hating. Rather than stay on message and write how wonderful fascist JWs would be to fascist government, Rutherford allowed himself to veer off message sharply. The Witnesses are wonderful citizens of the Third Reich. All of a sudden. I wonder if property rights were in contest all of a sudden. Previously, the WTBTS did many things to inflame Hitler. The consequences would not be paid in Brooklyn, but in Germany. Commercial Jews provide the contrast with the Witnesses.

    I grew up in the post WWII period. My mom told me what it was like b/c my gm made the family practice giving Witness to the SS every day. U-2 boats were frequently in the NY Harbor. Unlike today, they had no hind sight that the Allieds would win. We frequently discussed the European Witnesses. In my young mind, triggered by school, I saw Jews and Witnesses as the same. Heroic fighters. A resistance. Now I realize we never heard of Jews in the camps. Only Witnesses.

    I find it strange that someone with my education and interests would no so little about this period. Years ago I made a special trip where the historic Good Friday hymn that stirred up Jew hatred would be sung. The text did not appear to be that bad. I suppose it was a link to everything else in a history going back thousands of years. Some of my favorite Church fathers were antisEmitic. The book has me sobered. It is not an easy read. I learned a lot, though.

  • designs
    designs

    Band-

    There are such holes in our knowledge of History, particularly Christian and European History with regards the family of Jews. Learned Rabbis throughout the centuries went to the Bishops and Pontiffs trying to enlighten them on the errors they were making with regards to their knowledge of Judaism and the awful statements in the NT about Jews and Judaism.

    'His blood be upon us', talk about a blantant lie and a literary conceit that caused the deaths of Millions upon Millions of Jews.

  • I quit!
    I quit!

    Did that book say anything about how Jews got into banking? My understanding is that they got into loaning money because they were forbiden from entering other professions to earn a living.

    The witnesses always made a big deal about how many witnesses died in the Nazi camps (and that is awful) but I believe more Catholic priest died at the hands of the Nazis that JWs. I think I read that in Barbara Grizzuti Harisons book on the Watchtower.

    As a JW I always sensed the underlying hatred of Jews in the Watchtower. Maybe it went back to Rutherford whos antisemitic statements are on record or maybe it was because they felt they replaced the Jews as Gods chosen people and didn't like the idea of the Jews trying weasel their way back into favor with God putting them back out on the street.

    I've never understood why people hate Jews. Some of my best friends have been Jews. Some of the kindest people I've met have been Jews. Some of the funinest people on the planet are Jews. I just don't get why some people are that stupid and mean to as hate and entire group of people whether it is for ethnicity, skin color or some other dumb reason.

  • cptkirk
    cptkirk

    band, you realize the book of esther was written long before the first century? and is just one giant anti-semtitc exhibition...

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