NOT IMAGE OF CROSS IN 4/1/02 WATCHTOWER ON PAGE 7!

by Derrick 8 Replies latest jw friends

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  Derrick

  In the Watchtower magazine on page 7 it is claimed in postings on this site that there is the image of a cross in some artwork.

  I'm holding a Watchtower magazine (4/1/02) and on page 7, upper-right, is the Tetragrammaton. This is a good "control" image to compare in scans that might appear on the Internet because it is too faint to reliably reproduce with a high-resolution scanner. The background is faint yellow, and the Tetragrammaton itself is white (the same white as the page itself). The caption reads: "Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified . . ."

  Under the Tetragrammaton is a picture of an older man who is either representing Christ ruling in Heaven or his Father, Jehovah. I think the artwork might represent Jehovah and not Christ because there is a facsimile of the Tetragrammaton -- not the cross -- on his crown. The caption above the picture continues with where the caption of the picture above it left off, "Let your [Messianic] kingdom come . . ." However, the picture could represent Christ on the throne his Father, Jehovah, gave to his Son, and the Tetragrammaton on the crown could represent the Name by whose authority Christ acts.

  In any event, I have looked at this image for several minutes using a large reading magnifier under bright light. At first glance -- but only for a few seconds -- the image looks like a cross but immediately becomes apparent it is NOT A CROSS because what initially looks like the crossbeam bends down on each side like the wings of a dove. This image is also white like the paper of the page itself, just like the Tetragrammaton above it is white. Looking up and down and comparing the tiny image to the large Tetragrammaton in the picture above it, makes it apparent the white image in the crown of the man on the throne is a FACSIMILE or tiny abstract of the Tetragrammaton.

  One would have to be extremely dishonest with themselves and others to claim otherwise after a careful examination of this artwork.

  I can see how a powerful image scan might make this reverse-type image (white typeface) appear like a cross.

  REMEMBER THE "CONTROL" IMAGE ABOVE IT. Only a scan of both images -- the Tetragrammaton and the image of the man on throne wearing a crown -- will clearly show the similarity. Having done many image scans, I know how you can adjust the resolution until certain parts of the image disappear. In this case, if the "wings" that bend downward from the tips of what initially appears as a "crossbeam" of a cross were to disappear in an image scan, what is left is the illusion of a cross in the scan.

  I highly recommend getting the latest Watchtower magazine if at all in doubt, and examine the crown yourself with a magnifier under bright light. Then report back to this board with your honest findings. It won't help to lie because anyone can enter a Kingdom Hall before a meeting, ask where the Literature Counter is, go to it and request the April 1, 2002 Watchtower magazine. You don't have to be baptized to obtain literature in this manner.

  As always, appalled at the lengths anti-JW propaganda will go to discredit them when there are so many bonafide reasons to criticize them!

  But then again, if you honestly criticize them, you leave open the chance a healing will take place. In order to permanently maim and destroy leaving no avenue for redemption and reform, one must totally butcher the subject often with hyperbolous propaganda that "sticks" with the intended audience. What a shame so many don't want to cure the "patient" (in this case Jehovah's Witnesses), but insist on pronouncing his "disease" as "incurable" to justify "putting him out of his misery to protect others from his disease." In this particular case, to extend the metaphor, I fear the "disease" is really belief in God, and "killing the patient" is intended to stop the spreading of this "disease" or belief in God by well-intentioned atheists. This propaganda is one of many attempts to demoralize the JW subjects with a persistent belief in God; one must really twist the facts enough to show JWs intent is "evil" and not simply "misguided" if one hopes to hit the intended paydirt: faith in God.

  Derrick

  To see a World in a Grain of Sand
  And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
  Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
  And Eternity in an hour.

  -- William Blake (Auguries of Innocence)
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  avengers

  As always, appalled at the lengths anti-JW propaganda will go to discredit them when there are so many bonafide reasons to criticize them!

  But then again, if you honestly criticize them, you leave open the chance a healing will take place

  I don't have a war against the "Joe in the field JW", but against their leaders whom are a bunch of murdering assholes. Maybe you could join them, because they will go down, and while they go down the toilet I will close the lid.

  Have a good day. avengers.

  The bigger the lie, the more that will believe it.
  Adolph Hitler.
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  butalbee

  To see a World in a Grain of Sand
  And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
  Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
  And Eternity in an hour.

  -- William Blake (Auguries of Innocence)

  First time I read that was in High School, it still sounds awesome.
  Derrick--you have good taste.
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  accuracy

  I don't see either a cross or a tetragram on the crown.

  Curiously, it looks a bit like the "all-seeing eye" of Masonic fame. But only slightly so.

  Is there a bigger copy of the pic somewhere else?
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  DCs Ghost

  In any event, I have looked at this image for several minutes using a large reading magnifier under bright light. At first glance -- but only for a few seconds -- the image looks like a cross

  its a shame that you had to spend so much time and make such an effort disecting an optical illusion, aparently it was meant to be subliminal and potentially raise confusion,

  "we do not see the world as it is,
  we see the world as we are. . ." Anais Nin
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  Derrick

  butalbee: Thanks for the kudos on my quotation. I have always appreciated poet William Blake's beautiful pros, with his expression of uncanny insight into the laws of space/time. It's stunning to consider he wrote the quotation in the footer of my posts many years before Einstein.

  Derrick

  To see a World in a Grain of Sand
  And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
  Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
  And Eternity in an hour.

  -- William Blake (Auguries of Innocence)
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  Derrick

  In any event, I have looked at this image for several minutes using a large reading magnifier under bright light. At first glance -- but only for a few seconds -- the image looks like a cross

  its a shame that you had to spend so much time and make such an effort disecting an optical illusion, aparently it was meant to be subliminal and potentially raise confusion,

  I'll have to admit that my well intentioned comment turned out to be a "gotcha" on the Watchtower Society. However, consider the possibility that it was NOT "meant to be subliminal and potentially raise confusion"? Rather, could it have simply been a naturally occurring illusion we see in so many forms of art (whether religious or non-religious)?

  As a hyperbolous example suppose we see faces in clouds overhead? We don't accuse the government of using an advanced technology to create subliminal images to control the population (or whatever!). That would be ludicrous.

  Another more down to earth example is when we see images in the rich and detailed Vatican paintings. Does this prove the Pope is conspiring with the artists to place subliminal images in the art for nefarious reasons? Of course not. Then why single out the Watchtower Society and the talented brothers and sisters who are artists? In all likelihood, these talented artists such as the one who created this image of Christ on the throne was simply trying to render a miniature image of the Tetragrammaton, an image enlarged with more accurate detail in a separate image above it.

  "we do not see the world as it is,
  we see the world as we are. . ." Anais Nin

  True, but not necessarily.

  Derrick

  To see a World in a Grain of Sand
  And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
  Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
  And Eternity in an hour.

  -- William Blake (Auguries of Innocence)
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  jwsons

  subliminal is the Art to make a picture look like something else. If you can see the Cross. That's it.

  Our Watchtower Society artist won !!!! He He He !!!.

  For me, I don't need hours to realize. It's catch my eyes. That's it. Hurray Our Artists and Governing Body to check it up "carefully" before it goes to Printing Firm.

  And one of the art is here:

  Is that borrowed from somewhere ? YES, it's here:

  http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/Writings/Moon.html

  jwsons

  Edited by - jwsons on 1 December 2002 9:15:2
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  Nathan Natas

  If you wanted to avoid straining your eyes to see the image, you could look at it under blue light or through a sheet of clear blue plastic. Blue is the complimentary color to yellow, and the yellow will almost magically become darker and easier to see. A scanner could be used the same way to make the "invisible" image more easily seen.

  I don't have a copy of that WT, but I do understand photographic color theory.

  Edited by - Nathan Natas on 1 December 2002 1:34:14