Mr. Unthank and Theocratic Warfare

by Celestial 5 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • Celestial
    Celestial

    After reading the threads on this forum, the collapse of Mr. Unthank's crusade against the Watchtower Society seems to have some people riled up. I haven't followed the outworking of events that led up to the case's dismissal by the public prosecutor.

    I did notice that there was a formal motion to charge the "faithful and discreet slave" and prosecute this entity as "corporate accused.”

    According to the Watchtower society, “the faithful and discreet slave” is the earthly (physical) aspect of spiritual order (a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation) anointed by God that shares in the direction of his people and will ascend to immortality in a supernatural realm upon their demise.

    Just as all members of ancient Israel formed one “servant,” so also all anointed Christians on earth at any one time form one “faithful and discreet slave.” Watchtower 11/01/2007

    The Watchtower Society isn't the first religion to incorporate the idea that an order of deities and transcendent humans exercise authority over their subordinates. This belief is common in esoteric organizations.

    In magical orders, the “secret chiefs” is a spiritual hierarchy responsible for overseeing the operations of esoteric organizations. Several occultists claimed to belong to or to have contacted these supernatural beings and made these communications known to others.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn

    The Golden Dawn system was based on hierarchy and initiation like the Masonic Lodges; however women were admitted on an equal basis with men. The "Golden Dawn" was the first of three Orders, although all three are often collectively referred to as the "Golden Dawn". The First Order taught esoteric philosophy based on the Hermetic Qabalah and personal development through study and awareness of the four Classical Elements as well as the basics of astrology, tarot divination, and geomancy. The Second or "Inner" Order, the Rosae Rubeae et Aureae Crucis (the Ruby Rose and Cross of Gold), taught proper magic, including scrying, astral travel, and alchemy. The Third Order was that of the "Secret Chiefs", who were said to be highly skilled; they supposedly directed the activities of the lower two orders by spirit communication with the Chiefs of the Second Order.

    A person has to rely on an organization's religious beliefs to define the respective roles of an organization's spiritual hierarchy and thus may have limited or no relevance in a legal proceeding. If you attempt to charge an organization's spiritual hierarchy with a crime in a legal proceeding, you may just end up chasing a bunch of ghosts, because the entity has no formal identity in a secular court.

    An interesting aspect of the “faithful and discreet slave” is its formal identity is limited in scope even within Jehovah's organization. There's no formal appointment to the “faithful and discreet slave's” membership status by anyone in the organization. There's no membership list held by anyone at Bethel headquarters of those that comprise “the faithful and discreet slave.” This has something to do with why the Watchtower society's lawyers stated they do not exist as an "incorporated body," nor do they exist as a tangible "body" of Christians subject to prosecution, but as a “theological arrangement.”

    For future reference, if there's a decision to prosecute the Watchtower society by any person(s), it may be best to issue a formal injunction that's definitive in a court of law.

    Being adapted to modern conditions and requirements and being obliged to render to Caesar Caesar’s things, the visible theocratic organization today has a legally established service agency, the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, incorporated in 1884 under the laws of the state of Pennsylvania, United States of America. (Matt. 22:21) It is with this legal corporation that the governing body of the “faithful and discreet slave” class is closely associated for administrative, legal and publishing purposes, to see that “this good news of the kingdom” is preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations. Watchtower 09/01/1954

    I don't know why this case against the Watchtower society collapsed, but waging theocratic warfare in a secular court didn't help any. That does nothing but weaken the credibility of the prosecution.

  • mind blown
    mind blown

    More WTS twisting and spinning.......you can spin it anyway you want.....one day it's all going to come crashing down....."the higher they climb, the harder they fall"........

    *No formal appointment?

    "For 19 centuries there was only the one calling, the heavenly one, with Jehovah being very selective as to who would serve with his Son to make up the Kingdom government. Many would be invited but only a precious few chosen. (Matthew 22:2, 14) In time the prescribed but limited number of 144,000 would be reached. After this no more would be anointed by holy spirit as witness that they had the heavenly hope, unless, in a rare occurrence, the unfaithfulness of one of the remaining 'chosen ones' made a replacement necessary." Watchtower 1982 Feb 15 p.30

    *No membership list held at Bethel?

    Yes, there is membership list. It's called a head count of memorial takers which is kept at Bethel and is also printed in the yearbook. Otherwise how would they know if it has decreased or not?

    "… the number of anointed ones on the earth has decreased over the decades … "
    Watchtower Feb 15 2009

    Number of Partakers at the 2010 Memorial Service

    2009 - 10857
    2010 - 11202

    As you can see, the numbers of partakers is increasing.

    For information purposes only:

    1935 52465
    1936 24850
    1937
    1938 39225
    1939 29385
    1940 27711
    1941 23989
    1942 24035
    1943 23577
    1944 22648
    1945 22328
    1946 27587
    1947 26449
    1948 25395
    1949 24312
    1950 22723
    1951 21619
    1952 20221
    1953 19183
    1954 17884
    1955 16815
    1956 16302
    1957 15628
    1958 15037
    1959 14511
    1960 13911
    1961 13284
    1962 12714
    1963 12292
    1964 11953
    1965 11550
    1966 11266
    1967 1098
    11968 10619
    1969 10368
    1970 10500
    1971 10384
    1972 10350
    1973 10523
    1974 10723
    1975 10550
    1976 10187
    1977 10080
    1978 9762
    1979 9727
    1980 9564
    1981 9601
    1982 9529
    1983 9292
    1984 9081
    1985 9051
    1986 8927
    1987 8808
    1988 8685
    1989 8734
    1990 8869
    1991 8850
    1992 8683
    1993 8693
    1994 8617
    1995 8645
    1996 8757
    1997 8795
    1998 8756
    1999 8755
    2000 8661
    2001 8730
    2002 8760
    2003 8565
    2004 8570
    2005 8524
    2006 8758
    2007 9105
    2008 9986
    2009 10857
    2010 11202

    *“faithful and discreet slave” is its formal identity is limited in scope? nor do they exist as a tangible "body" ?

    "OVERWHELMING CREDENTIALS

    The "faithful and discreet slave" has abundant credentials. Following is a partial list of Scriptural and prophetic designations applying to or being represented in the remnant of Jesus Christ's anointed followers since the notable year 1919:" Watchtower 1981 Mar 1 p.27

    "If all the anointed as a group, no matter where on earth they live, are members of the slave class, who are the "domestics"? They are the same anointed ones but considered from a different viewpoint-as individuals. Yes, as individuals they would be of the "slave" or they would be "domestics," depending on whether they were dispensing spiritual food or partaking of it. To illustrate: As recorded at 2 Peter 3:15, 16, the apostle Peter makes reference to Paul's letters. When reading them, Peter would be as one of the domestics feeding on the spiritual food provided by Paul as a representative of the slave class."Watchtower 1995 May 15 p.16

    When the time comes to clarify a spiritual matter in our day, holy spirit helps responsible representatives of “the faithful and discreet slave” at world headquarters to discern deep truths that were not previously understood. (Matt. 24:45; 1 Cor. 2:13) The Governing Body as a whole considers adjusted explanations. (Acts 15:6) What they learn, they publish for the benefit of all."Watchtower 2010 Jul 15 pp.22,23aul's letters. When reading them, Peter would be as one of the domestics feeding on the spiritual food provided by Paul as a representative of the slave class."Watchtower 1995 May 15 p.16

  • Celestial
    Celestial

    This isn't “WTS twisting and spinning.” I just voiced an opinion based on what I've been exposed to.

  • mind blown
    mind blown

    Point taken

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat
    For future reference, if there's a decision to prosecute the Watchtower society by any person(s), it may be best to issue a formal injunction that's definitive in a court of law.

  • TimothyT
    TimothyT

    From my own personal perspective, the idea that the 'faithful slave' exists and is a group of men known as Jehovahs Witnesses, and take their name from Matthew 24 is actually a load of rubbish! The scriptural basis for such a teaching is based purely on an illustration given by Jesus. The JW disdredit the idea of Hell as it is based on an illustration too. Why one rule for that and not the same for this?

    In the end, the bible is quite clear anyway that it is through faith and belief in Jesus that we are saved. Organised religion should not come in to it. It should merely be used to help us in that goal.

    Timmy x

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