Things that happen vs Things that DON'T........*happen

by Terry 9 Replies latest jw friends

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  Terry

  Let's keep it really simple. That way we won't get confused.

  Things happen.

  What can we say about Things that happen?

  Things that happen are POSSIBLE!

  However, we may have thought "such things are impossible."

  So, as unlikely as it seemed to us, the things which only seemed impossible were really possible.

  Still with me?

  Things that happen ARE ALWAYS DEFINITELY POSSIBLE. Hint: otherwise, they would not and could not happen. Ever!

  Now, what about Things that DON'T happen?

  These things may, conversely SEEM POSSIBLE. They may seem quite likely and even CERTAIN.

  But, Things that DON'T happen may be the opposite of our expectations.

  Can we boldly declare that Things that DON'T happen are impossible?

  Well, we can declare it--but, that doesn't mean we are right.

  So, what can we definitely say about THINGS THAT HAPPEN vs THINGS THAT DON'T?

  EVENTS are only events when they actually OCCUR!

  Non occurance does not an "event" make!

  Take the resurrection of the "faithful worthies of old" as promised by J.F.Rutherford in his public talks MILLION NOW LIVING WILL NEVER DIE, for example.

  Rutherford made 1925 the year of THINGS THAT HAPPEN. He definitely planted expectations around resurrection on Jehovah's Authority and also based on his -interpretation of scriptures IN HIS CAPACITY as a "Faithful, Discreet Slave".

  1925 came and departed demonstrating THINGS THAT DON'T HAPPEN.

  J.F.Rutherford was vocal in declaring "I made an ass of myself." But, he failed to point out that he had also made an ass out of Jehovah's reputation as the leader of the Watchtower Society and made an ass out of all who listened to Rutherford and believed!

  Things that DON'T happen (when they are fully endowed with Divine Authority) are FALSE things.

  What about the "MILLIONS" who were promised they "WILL NEVER DIE"?

  Those millions are dead. Death was an event. Death for these Millions was not SUPPOSED to be THINGS THAT HAPPEN.

  See where we are going with all this?

  The difference between THINGS that HAPPEN and THINGS that DON'T happen comes down to the ACTUAL FACTS around expectations of those events or non-events.

  Putting your credibility on the line, putting god's Name and Authority on the line, putting your fellow humble and obedient followers faith on the line MAKES THE OUTCOME OF EVENTS something of a CLEAR TEST of Truth or Fraud.

  Once events that are NOT supposed to happen actually HAPPEN...

  and once events that are SUPPOSED to happen actually DON'T happen....

  the cat is out of the bag, the story is told, the evidence is now proof. FACTS don't lie.

  We have a very clear basis for judging the merit of the authority of Jehovah's Witnesses as the "chosen" or "True" religion.

  How?

  Look at THINGS THAT HAPPEN vs THINGS THAT DON'T.
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  Chariklo

  Oh yes. You have it right, Terry.

  Alternatively, truth v fraud.
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  Terry

  The Watchtower magazine is supposed to contain:

  Useful, necessary and urgent factual information channeled directly by the only True Living God

  The publishers of the Watchtower magazine are supposed to be:

  specially chosen "faithful and discreet slaves" giving "food at the proper time."

  The test of a true christian is supposed to hinge on whether or not that christian takes the Watchtower magazines to householders.

  This is essentially what "Witness" work consists of: taking Watchtower publications to non-Witnesses.

  Time and time again for the last 100 years the substance of claims repeatedly made inside the Watchtower publications has met with factual inability to state THINGS THAT HAPPEN correctly in advance. Further, almost miraculously, they fail to correctly state THINGS THAT DON'T HAPPEN.

  This means that being a True Christian cannot possibly have anything at all to do with carrying worthless magazines to non-witnesses.

  The only reasonable conclusion is that the entire hundred year activity of the religion known as Jehovah's Witnesses has been a complete and utter fraud wasting tens of thousands of hours of those people's lives!

  What sane person would ever stoop to calling this a LIFE SAVING WORK?? It is a LIFE WASTING work!
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  Tater-T

  great thread and to quote another great man... Ricky Bobby..." THAT JUST HAPPENED!!!"
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  Disillusioned Lost-Lamb

  Yes, FACTS don't lie and the FACT that wash-towel overlooks this makes them deserving of scrutiny (more than most other pseudo religions).

  The WTBT$ is trying to put a square peg in a round hole and then expecting us to believe without a doubt that it fits perfectly.

  The FACT is it doesn’t, no matter how hard you try it never will.

  By the way, thanks for putting this in such a clear ambiguous wash-towel way. J
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  Terry

  Which is it, 1975, Things that happen or Things that Don't?

  What did and what didn't? What's the difference?

  The end of 6,000 years of human existence... Is the "end" of something a happening or a non-happening?

  The Watchtower built-in a connection to prophecy. Prophecy is something that "will happen".

  It was to co-incide with the beginning of the Millennium!

  So, what was FALSE about 1975? The things that happened or the Things that didn't?
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  thetrueone

  One notable thing that did happen was the WTS. marketing strategy supporting the proliferation of its published works..

  Prophecy by the WTS. was its marketing strategy.

  What do false prophets gain in comparison to the false prophets in ancient times ? Answer = $$$
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  Terry

  I was talking the other day to a married couple who still attend Kingdom Hall j-u-s-t enough to look legitimate although they no longer believe.

  Each was the offspring of a father who led the congregation as Overseer/Presiding Elder. They have been in it for the long haul.

  Having spent time in Brooklyn at Bethel and working on the Watchtower Farm they got to see things from the inside and up close. The husband had spoken with some Governing Body members including Fred Franz.

  He recalled a conversation in which he had Freddy say to him, "Well, that's kinda how we look at it right now...." and a light suddenly came on in his head!

  The teaching in question was being taught as an absolute. You were not allowed to question it. But, Fred Franz, Guru in Chief, was casually tossing it off as

  a speculative guess!

  It would be years before this married couple sat down with others and secretly compared notes. Each thought they were the ONLY ONE with doubts!

  So isolated and so ashamed were they only shame kept them from investigating further. Embarassment and fear mixed in with a dizzy awareness that something BIG was not right. Not right at all.

  They finally said to me, "The men at the top KNOW it is a bunch of crap, but, they also know they've got a REAL GOOD THING going for THEMSELVES."

  I think it comes down to that, essentially. By the time you rise to the top you KNOW it is bull, but, you are in the power position. It is too good to make waves.
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  snare&racket

  The Birthday Paradox:

  With just 23 people in a room, there is a 50% chance two people will share a birthday. This does not feel right, sound right or even appear right. But it is true.

  The 'Monty Hall Three Box' Problem :

  You are on a gameshow, there are 3 boxes, 2 empty and one containing cash-moneyz, you choose one, of the remaining two the host opens one and reveals it empty. You now have the option of keeping your original box or exchanging it for the oher box? What do you do? tic toc tic toc..... does it make a difference?....tic toc tic toc....

  The answer is.... there was a 1 in 3 chance of getting the right box initially....

  therefore there was a 2 in 3 chance that the other boxes held the money.....

  Now you have seen that one of the two is empty.... so now there is a 2 in 3 chance of the money being in the other unopened box......

  Your box has 1/3 chance, the other box has 2/3 chance... YOU SHOULD ALWAYS SWAP.

  Again, it doesnt sound right, it doesnt feel right, it doesnt appear right, but its true.

  Whats the point of my ramblings? The probability of a tax rebate the morning after you prayed to god for money...... what are the chances? Impossible? Feels impossible.... but our gut feelings cant be trusted.

  Things Happen....
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  Terry

  This is what I told my JW buddy one day.

  There are about 5 Billion people on planet Earth.

  Every single day something happens to each of us that happens to nobody else.

  What are the chances of that? 5 Billion to 1!

  The odds against something don't really mean anything when that "something" actually happens!