I checked out Elihu Books, the website looks decent and the writer does his due diligence. The next step was to look at the "Message Boards" which appeared to have virtually no traffic. Why is Elihu a virtual ghostown, with little webtraffic, (I looked at the postboard counts)? There was one area, that did creep me out, just a tiny bit, a strange thread on "qoutes".
Elihu Books Website, Why Is Web Traffic So Limited?
by Bubblegum Apotheosis 7 Replies latest jw friends
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slimboyfat
Greg Stafford has the worst of both worlds. JWs are no longer interested in him because he turned apostate. And ex-JWs are not interested in him because he defends many aspects of Watchtower teaching and is obsessed with the Trinity and the Tetragrammaton. Even Evangelicals are no longer interested in debating him because he no longer plausibly represents anyone other than himself. The receptive audience for his particular brand of 'JWs are right about some things and wrong about others' doesn't appear to be much above one: himself.
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Phizzy
A good summation Slim, I feel a small debt of gratitude to Greg, it was his site I found by some sort of link when I first started investigating JW's and the 1914 doctrine.
It was heartening to find another JW who had come to exactly the same conclusion as me, almost word for word he put down my thoughts, that you can dabate 607/587 ad nauseum. and it really doesn't matter, as there is no 2520days or years IN THE BIBLE ! It just ain't there.
I did not agree with his support for various bits of JW doctrine after a while, and so I stopped reading on his site, apart from dropping back in once in a while.
His site linked me to here at the time, for that I shall be ever greatful.
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designs
A little to much of 'my way or the highway', everyone moved on.
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Sulla
I thought he was starting his own church... I think that looking at the style and approach of successful mega-churches and Stafford might uncover a couple differences that could be important.
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scary21
Some intresting interveiws with Greg on 6 screens.
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
The group Elihu represents would indeed be small, I can't imagine anybody subscribing to a "My way or the highway" after dealing with the Watchtower Society, why attempt to reconnect with a control or power hungry entity. I don't think Greg is trying to control anyone, he is passionate about his beliefs and how he came to his conclusions.
I was reading one of his boards he started, I think it's "What's your favorite qoute?", before I opened the thread,"I thought of some of my favorite qoutes" qoutes like "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored or You shall know the Truth and the truth shall make you mad!" Aldous Huxley so i hit the link, hoping to find some well known qoutes. To my surprise, Mr. Stafford had provided his own personal sayings (things he thought up in his own head) as qoutes, idioms or time tested, well established wisdom. It bothered me, because another person should be qouting you or your wisdom, instead of talking about ourself in the third person" I will try to create my own qoute, here I go!
"The Society must be right every now and then, by mere chance" Bubblegum
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
Double posting is happening because of this stupid Google "Web ad brower"