MTM Experiences

by Momma-Tossed-Me 4 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Momma-Tossed-Me
    Momma-Tossed-Me

    If witnesses could only feel the freedom to speak their minds, what would they say?

    Well, being fully free from the org via my ex-communication really allows me to engage in conversations with members who allow me to do so.

    What I have found interesting in every conversation is this common phrase, "You know (looking down their nose at me) the truth. You know that the information is correct so imperfect organization or not this is Jehovah's chosen organization. You know that having anything to do with the world affects your relationship with Jehovah."

    Now, I realize that this is standard fodder and regurgitation. But the phrase, "You know..." is very troubling to me for their sake. They knew me when I agreed with them through uniformity. That is not what, or who I am, or know now.

    Guilt is the way they try to re-convert. That is not found anywhere in the Bible. The facts are what should prevail in any conversation that is held between an ex and a JW.

    So I have found another person in my area that is totally out and educated about the WTBTS. By having someone else to talk in your area really helps.

    Last night I was at a local restaurant and saw a married couple who don't go to any meetings except the Memorial of the Watchtower's Existence.

    We exchanged pleasantries and I actually sat down with them. Then I informed them that I was running for political office and they acknowledged that fact. They wanted to know why and said they were suprised to see it.

    I told them I began my fade some years ago and was truly happy with my decision since I was now righting a wrong course that had countributed to a relationship with an organization rather than a relationship with God.

    The husband was really trying to get me to see "the light" and the wife was agreeing with me, which I thought was interesting. But they were visibly uncomfortable talking about these things.

    I spoke on the subject of self policing members, worshipping in fear, the DF'ing policy, etc. I also spoke about the judgement about ones salvation being determined by ones works.

    I also said by putting my name out there it showed that ones could be truly happy outside of the religion, for the husband was under the impression that many have left and are unhappy which is more Org fodder.

    One thing I can say is when approaching people impromptu just speak about the benefits of leaving the Org. Doctrinal matters will get you no where, just avoid them. Speaking about the positive effects in your life by exiting will appeal to them since they are so unhappy and mentally diseased spiritually.

    One more thing I have observed and that is when people do leave, MOST hold onto the doctrine which is interesting don't you think?

    Hope you enjoyed! Have a great day!

  • erbie
    erbie

    Yes, quite so. Discussing doctrine will always make them dig their heels in.

    Lead by example and let them see the benefits you enjoy in having the freedom of choice.

  • Broken Promises
    Broken Promises

    Good points.

    But what does "MTM" mean?

    Don't worry, I worked it out.

  • blindnomore
    blindnomore

    Most who left the borg did so in physically but still are in captive of the cult concept which have hindered them from being enlightened and being unsheckled from the concept. Most hold onto the doctrin and living under fear and are unhappy.

    I consider myself extremly fortuneat that I combated the cult in a reletively short time, with help of the internet. I now be able to see the borg as a third person. What I see is...the JONE'S TOWN!

    Thank you for good suggestions.

  • Flossycat
    Flossycat

    Yes, MTM. I agree with you - JWs think those who leave live terribly lost, unhappy lives. And I did for many years because I hadn't stopped believing it was the truth. So my JW family were going: 'You know it's the truth. Please come back.' Then once I learnt the JW teachings are a load of bull****, quit feeling guilty/condemned, I really got my life together; 7 years ago found a wonderful man (who isnt the slightest bit religious) who any mother would love as a son-in-law - he's kind, caring, honest, honourable, financially well-off and supports me in every way. He really, really loves me - and I, him. AND THAT is what gets under the skin of the JWs, (despite my mother saying she's glad I've found stability). They don't like it when an exJW 'makes it' outside their confines. She sent me a short note about 3 years ago asking me to 'please come back to the Truth; time is fast running out...'

    And yes - you can't discuss doctrine with a JW. You can actually see them go into robot/program mode - they stop listening and just preach AT you.

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