Would David be DF today?

by jam 9 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  jam

  I think David broke all the commandments in his day.

  Murder, beheading of Goliath, that,s A little to much.

  Murder of the Philistine and taking their foreskins, ok thats,

  sadistic even if it ment marry Saul daughter.

  He became freinds with unbeleivers (he accepts the town

  of Ziklag from the Philistine king.

  Adultery (Bathsheba) and killed her old man.

  And he coveted his neighbor,s wife.

  When I was A elder and someone was being DF,

  an elder would allways bring up, look at David and

  his deeds and I would think,(so to make the person feel better), yea David was never DF

  but this person only misdeed was maybe adultery, drunkeness

  or guestioning the borg. You can not compare David acts with

  JW,s today.
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  talesin

  David was well-connected, so I vote for "NO".

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  ziddina

  Heh heh heh...

  Would David be disfellowshipped?

  Depends...

  On whether he was "best buds" with the elders on the disfellowshipping committee...

  If he'd had them over for a few bottles of vino and roasted lamb every weekend, they just might turn a blind eye to all of his "oopsies"... Especially if he shed a few tears of "repentance" during the committee meetings...
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  mP

  not a chance, david would decapitate the elders as soon as they opened their mouths just to be s&safe.
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  WTWizard

  I do think he would have been reproved, and likely made to wait for "privileges(??)". However, he richly deserved to be disfellowshipped--for invading innocent nations on a first-strike offensive basis to destroy their native religions. He murdered tens of thousands of people just for not worshiping his god. To me, that is far more serious than adultery, mishandling the ark, or taking an illegal census.

  In fact, if I had to pick a president, I would rather have Osama Obama any day rather than Tyrant David. Now, all I have to worry about is gas at 9 toilet papers a gallon (I ride a bicycle), expensive electricity (I am in the process of switching my energy-waster CFL bulbs to LED), hyperinflation (most of my savings are in silver), ACTA (which is why I am buying the CDs on Joy of Satan instead of mooching it on YouTube for free, so I will still have the instructions and the sermons therein), and general martial law. Under Tyrant David, homophobia would be worse (yet, I would probably be prohibited from finding the opposite sex because Tyrant David would want it for himself). The denigration of women would be worse. I would expect taxes to approach 100%, and silver not even available (he would confiscate it). Bad-mouthing the Jewish, Christian, or Muslim religions even if by pointing out fallacies straight from their own holy documents would be a death-penalty offense (yet, I would be required to stick my nose into people's business and rat out any gay people or someone working on the Sabbath).

  Not to mention that I value my freedom to select what, if any, religion I wish to follow. If I choose not to show up at a church, synagogue, or mosque, that is my prerogative. Tyrant David would force me into the synagogue when it is time to go, regardless. And I had better not have any Ouija boards or use genuine spiritual healing systems, or I could be put to death. Last I checked, Osama Obama hasn't succeeded in regulating these tools. And, the NDAA he passed only brands Christians as potential terror suspects, without saying a peep about Satanists.
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  Flat_Accent

  He might get a stern talking to, but I imagine a few hundred foreskins would suffice for an apology.
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  exwhyzee

  I don't think he'd be disfellowshipped but he wouldn't be allowed to be a parking lot attendant or handle the roving microphones for at least 6 months.
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  jam

  WT. Wizard: It,s funney you mention "If I had to pick

  A leader or President". Can you imagine , David running

  for president. Sir, what are your qualification for this office?

  David, well I have killed thousand, beheaded A few people

  on one occasion I removed my conquest forskin, I cheating

  on my wife and had A man killed because I desired his wife.

  And if I win I will name the country after me.

  OK , Mr David, I don,t think you qualify for this job, maybe

  you might try, Afghanistan, or north Korea, you sadistic A-whole.

  People of faith, how did this man become one of the most

  beloved characters in the Bible. Because he did it in the name

  of God.
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  processor

  Among the people who must be disfellowship(p)ed according to JW regulations are:

  Jehovah	Promotion of false doctrines (2 Peter 1:21); practice of spiritism (Job 1:7); drunkenness (Psalm 78:65); fits of anger (Psalm 78:66; Ezekiel 7:19); extortion (Deuteronomy 28); violation of neutrality (Numbers 21:14); deliberate lying (Genesis 2:17; 13:15)
  Noah	Drunkenness (Genesis 9:20-22)
  Abraham	Support of false religion (Genesis 22:10); refusal to provide for the family (Genesis 21:14-16); violation of neutrality (Genesis 14)
  Lot	Drunkenness (Genesis 19:30-36)
  Jacob	Idolatry (Genesis 31:32); deliberate lying (Genesis 27:19, 24)
  Rachel	Idolatry (Genesis 31:19)
  Judah	Fornication (Genesis 38:15-18)
  Joseph	Practice of spiritism (Genesis 44:5)
  Moses	Promotion of false doctrines (Exodus 14:13); manslaughter (Exodus 2:11, 12); misuse of blood (Exodus 7:20, 21)
  Rahab	Fornication (James 2:25)
  Gideon	Idolatry (Judges 8:27)
  Samson	Fornication (Judges 16:1)
  David	Fornication (2 Samuel 11:2-4); violence (1 Samuel 18:7); violation of neutrality (1. Chronicles 28:3)
  Shulammite	Loose conduct (Song of Solomon 7:11, 12)
  Elijah	Reviling (1 Kings 18:27)
  Jehu	Support of false religion (2 Kings 10:18-20)
  Daniel	Violation of neutrality (Daniel 2:48)
  Nehemiah	Fits of anger; reviling (Nehemiah 13:23-25)
  Jesus	Promotion of false doctrines (Matthew 5:43, 44); causing of divisions (Luke 12:51-53); practice of spiritism (Matthew 8:31, 32; Luke 9:30, 31)
  Peter	Manslaughter (Acts 5:4, 5)
  Paul	Idolatry (Acts 17:23); fits of anger (Acts 15:39)
  Barnabas	Fits of anger (Acts 15:39)
  James	Promotion of false doctrines (James 1:27)
  John	Practice of spiritism (Revelation 1:4)

  See "Disfellowshipping – A Timeless Arrangement" in the July and August 2010 Witchtower issues:

  http://www.svhelden.info/pdf/witchtower_07_2010.pdf

  http://www.svhelden.info/pdf/witchtower_08_2010.pdf
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  jam

  Processor; Thanks

  So in the future if any of you find yourself sitting

  in A judical meeting to be DF, present Processor

  list and explain to the Elders, to my knowledge not

  one of these offenders were DF, or shun according to

  JW regulations.

  The Elders will say, yes but Jehovah dealt with them.

  OK, I would like the same treatment, let Jehovah deal

  with me the same way he dealt with them.