Would Caleb be "marked" as bad association if .. . .

Gayle

his non=JW father said he could have the toy?

mrsjones5

Could be if his jw mother stupidly and unwittingly gabs about it to the congregation trying to win brownie points on how long suffering she is because of her UBM.

NewChapter

Just like when you tell a child that they will be destroyed for celebrating Christmans---then the UBM takes him/her to grandma's for gifts. They are Sparlocking their children's minds.

YES! My parents were strict and I could not only have only JW friends, but they cut half of them off of me too! When my parents went to pick me up from a JW friends house and we were playing with his transformer action figures, that was it, I could never come over again. Some of the other examples were just as stupid.

Morbidzbaby

@puff I remember my brother wasn't allowed to play with Transformers, but for some reason he could play with GoBots...

I knew a family with an UBM...the dad celebrated Christmas and Birthdays every year and the kids always got gifts. But they were not in any way deemed bad association. People understood they had the "burden" of having an unbelieving father who cared enough to give them gifts. For some reason, my unbelieving dad never wanted to do Christmas or Birthdays (I really think he either didn't want to spend the money and saw it as a savings or he was just trying to shut my mother up), but we were considered bad association. The other family was well off and had their own home in a nice area, a pool, etc. We lived in a shitty apartment in the city. I can't help but think that it had something to do with our econimic status.

breakfast of champions

Yes, absolutely. This is what my mom and her elderette friend did with me and another kid in the cong. whose dad wasn't "in the troof." It was almost like he was disfellowshipped.

Disillusioned Lost-Lamb

Most certainly!

You don't even have to have the toy for this to happen.

My Dad, who was an active unbaptized publisher but faded after my parents got married, is considered an "unbeliever" and because my Sister and I didn't shun him we were, and are, treated like dirt.