Meal with my father

by Gorbatchov 8 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Gorbatchov
    Gorbatchov

    Today I had a nice experience: an evening meal with my father, a former elder and secretary. He stepped down a few years ago but remained a "stable" congregational member, and performing the ministerial servent job.

    Tonight the conversation went on the Candace Conti cage. We are north western europeans but he read about it in a newspaper. He acknowledged that our believe has also problems with child abuse.

    I told him about the list of 15.000 USA JW's that are known abusers. He acknowledged the fact that the WTS policy was to not involved police and authorities about these cases and told me that the WTS was very wrong.

    I told him about Watchtower history, about real first president H.W. Conley, about the crazy Rutherford and his expensive houses and cars and drinking problem.

    About our believe being a corporation with shareholders.

    About some divisions of the WTBTS being a part of OVSE.

    About the multi milion dollars at the WTBTS account.

    About the 1 billion dollar real estate and property managers.

    About the JW tradition not to say the truth about this all, but to stay silent or to deny what is going on.

    He listened and told me the only good thing of our believe was helping him being stable in life. He called the JW culture a communist culture, and agreed with me that the WTS is a corporation.

    Then he spoke about getting older and preparing for moving to the direction of my hometown.

    This was a very remarkable night!

    Gorby

  • nugget
    nugget

    it sounds as though you made a very real connection.

  • hemp lover
    hemp lover

    Well done.

  • breakfast of champions
    breakfast of champions

    Sound like a great time!

  • cofty
    cofty

    That must have been an amazingly refreshing conversation.

    I wonder how mnay older JWs are in the same position of being able to see the problems but deciding to live with it in view of their age.

    Thanks for posting that it was encouraging.

  • Gayle
    Gayle

    wow,,he took several "bullets" of JW secret facts from you and still wants to move closer to you?!

    I do feel sorry for most of the JW elderly. It amazes me how many feel the org was good for them, or giving them stability,,but what has the org "done for them lately?" or even helped their own kids in any way?

  • kurtbethel
    kurtbethel

    That is good. It could be wise to recognize the structure that he associated with because he needed that for his life, and let him have that. He sounds like he has one foot out. The most important thing here is the compassionate human connection, so build on that as much as possible and don't haggle over the rest.

  • 00DAD
    00DAD

    Good for you!

  • 3rdgen
    3rdgen

    Nice story

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