Dawkins and Killers frontman clash over Book of Mormon

by cedars 8 Replies latest jw friends

  • cedars
    cedars

    Here is the video... (the interesting bit starts at 07:30 or thereabouts)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjwsG36XTZ8

    And here is the article covering it...

    http://www.gigwise.com/news/76350/watch-brandon-flowers-rows-with-richard-dawkins-about-religion

    In this brief encounter, Dawkins mentions the Book of Mormon and highlights the fact that it was written in the style of "16th Century English" despite being written in the 19th Century. He reasons that, on this basis, the work is a forgery and Joseph Smith is a "charlatan".

    Brandon Flowers, frontman to the Killers (whose music I love) is a Mormon and gets quite agitated by this, at one point telling Dawkins to "do your research" in a terse exchange.

    Despite this awkward moment, it was nice to see that the pair were able to part amicably with a handshake.

    Cedars

  • BroMac
    BroMac

    shame Brandon mimes at the end.

    at the moment i cant say that i am in agreement with Richard Dawkins but who knows I may in the future, keep my options are open on that one. one thing i will say about him, he's seems a nice chap!

    Ulrika ka ka

  • snare&racket
    snare&racket

    I saw this, I felt bad for him but then Dawkins is right in what he says, thought not perhaps the way he said it.

    BroMac, may I humbly ask whether it is Dawkins you disagree with or the evidence he presents? Have you read "The Greatest Show on Earth?"

    Snare x

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    Flowers won the debate with the song which is pretty cool. Dawkins is running away from the real reason music moves him to tears. He's the one not accepting the truth, not the other way around.

    -Sab

  • WontLeave
    WontLeave

    So much information is available to anyone with half a brain about the insanity of the Mormon beliefs, history, and "holy" books. The amount of cognitive dissonance required to accept the religion is ridiculous. The fact that Mormons prosper in industrialized nations is bizarre. Muslims prosper in deserts full of ignorant goat herders. JWs prosper in South American villages. Evangelicals flourish in Arkansas. I realize the Scientology proliferation among Hollywood sociopaths and their insane underlings. I don’t understand the degree of success with Mormons among educated, intelligent, middle- to upper-class people.

  • Qcmbr
    Qcmbr

    It's got a much better story than other strands of xianity. Theologically it is much cleverer than traditional xian theology. It is much easier to understand. The culture is much more practical, useful and devoid of obvious xian crazy ( speaking in tongues, falling on the floor etc.) it has a mixture of all the fun parts of religion ( grand architecture, self improvement, strong cultural activities, competitive ethic, self sufficiency, education, pragmatism etc.)

    Need I go on? I found it ridiculously easy to believe in. What I lacked was what all religious believers lack. We all know what makes our belief 'true' what we don't know is what would make it untrue.

  • LV101
    LV101

    Cedars --- thanks for posting this. The Killers --- a Las Vegas band that used to practice their music on the UNLV campus because they apparently couldn't afford or possess all their own instruments.

    Too bad he's brainwashed w/Mormanism. There's more wards (Morman bunkers) here than anywhere or used to be and usually located across the street from every highschool or in close proximity. They grab em young.

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    How rude.

  • mP
    mP

    I saw an interesting vid on youtube the other day, which stated the Mormon bank in LV basically funded the Mobsters who built all the casinos. They also ran brothels to catch abd blackmail opponents to their polygamy system.

    THe vid had a title something like "10 things you didnt know about mormons". Unfortunately it failed to mention their downright fraud about the book of Abraham and their racist policies against blacks.

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