Do the 144K have "Beautiful Minds?"

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  • Mindchild
    Mindchild

    Do the “Anointed” have a “beautiful minds” or “bicameral minds?”

    As you sit here quietly reading this post you are probably not aware that I’m about to expose you to an intellectual shock. Using published research material from perhaps one of the ten most important books in the 20th century; I have come to the conclusion that the “Anointed” or 144,000, sometimes known as the “Faithful and Discrete Slave” have only marginal consciousness and frequently experience auditory hallucinations. I further support this bold hypothesis by drawing on personal experience with members of the Jehovah’s Witness anointed class and conversations with ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses on this discussion board and others.

    Due to time demands, I support my arguments heavily using published information from the resource mentioned below, but only quoting relevant material. I provide the links and offer encouragement to do additional reading if you find the material of value.

    Princeton University psychologist Julian Jaynes published a very important book back when the Witnesses expected the world to end in the mid 1970’s. The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind surprised the psychological community by speculating that until late in the second millennium B.C. men had no consciousness but were automatically obeying the voices of gods.

    At the heart of this book is the revolutionary idea that human consciousness did not begin far back in animal evolution but is a learned process brought into being out of an earlier hallucinatory mentality by cataclysm and catastrophe only 3000 years ago and still developing.

    Commentary by John Flint and Eric Savage (URL: http://www.neo-tech.com/discovery/nt3.html)

    The bicameral mind is a human mind functioning in a particular, unconscious mode or manner...in the manner intended by nature. While the bicameral mind[ 1 ] exists in all people, it can be controlled or dominated by a special mode of consciousness developed not through mother nature but volitionally by each individual being. That mind control or domination can be exercised by an individual over himself and others. Or an individual can allow that mode of consciousness in others to control or dominate his or her bicameral mind.

    The bicameral mind (two-chamber mind) is one that functions as an unconscious, two-step process. Automatic reactions and thoughts originate in the right hemisphere of the brain and are transmitted to the left hemisphere as instructions to be acted upon. The bicameral functioning is nature's automatic, learned mode of response without regard to conscious thinking. By contrast, man-made consciousness functions through a deliberate, volitional thought process that is independent of nature's bicameral thought process.

    Until approximately 3000 years ago, man's brain functioned entirely in nature's automatic bicameral mode. But the automatic bicameral mind became inadequate to handle the mounting problems as societies became more complex. To survive, man was forced to invent a new way of thinking -- a new mode called consciousness that could solve infinitely more complex problems. That consciousness mode involved his newly discovered powers of introspection. His thinking process was further enhanced by new thoughts and insights created by comparisons done through metaphors and analogs.

    Consciousness allows a person to make his or her own decisions rather than relying on nature's bicameral process that automatically follows learned customs, traditional rules, and external "authorities". Metaphors and analogs increase a person's range and power of thinking infinitely beyond nature's range. Yet, despite the great advantages in using the man-invented mode of thinking, most people today depend to various degrees on their automatic bicameral mentality and external "authorities" to make their decisions for them.

    That bicameral mentality lures people into searching for "sure-thing" guidance from "higher authorities", rather than using their own consciousness for making decisions and determining their actions. Thus, in their search for prepackaged truth and automatic guidance, people seek "higher authorities": religion, politics, true-believer movements, leaders, gurus, cults, astrology, fads, drugs, feelings, and even forms of poetry, music, medicine, nutrition, and psychology. The bicameral mind seeks outside sources that will tell it how to think and act. ...Anyone can exploit the automatic bicameral mind in others by setting up "authorities" for influencing or controlling that bicameral mentality seeking external guidance.

    The major components of Jaynes's discovery are:

    All civilizations before 1000 B.C. -- such as Assyria, Babylonia, Mesopotamia, pharaonic Egypt -- were built, inhabited, and ruled by nonconscious people.

    Ancient writings such as the Iliad and the early books of the Old Testament were composed by nonconscious minds that automatically recorded and objectively reported both real and imagined events. The transition to subjective and introspective writings of the conscious mind occurred in later works such as the Odyssey and the newer books of the Old Testament.

    Ancient people learned to speak, read, write, as well as carry out daily life, work, and the professions all while remaining nonconscious throughout their lives. Being nonconscious, they never experienced guilt, never practiced deceit, and were not responsible for their actions. They, like any other animal, had no concept of guilt, deception, evil, justice, philosophy, history, or the future. They could not introspect and had no internal idea of themselves. They had no subjective sense of time or space and had no memories as we know them. They were nonconscious and innocent. They were guided by "voices" or strong impressions in their bicameral minds -- nonconscious minds structured for nature's automatic survival.

    The development of human consciousness began about 3000 years ago when the automatic bicameral mind began breaking down under the mounting stresses of its inadequacy to find workable solutions in increasingly complex societies. The hallucinated voices became more and more confused, contradictory, and destructive.

    Man was forced to invent and develop consciousness in order to survive as his hallucinating voices no longer provided adequate guidance for survival.

    Today, after 3000 years, most people retain remnants of the bicameral guidance system in the form of mysticism and the desire for external authority.

    Except for schizophrenics, people today no longer hallucinate the voices that guided bicameral man. Yet, most people are at least partly influenced and are sometimes driven by the remnants of the bicameral mind as they seek, to varying degrees, automatic guidance from the mystical "voices" of others -- from the commanding voices of false external "authorities".

    Religions and governments are rooted in the nonconscious bicameral mind that is obedient to the "voices" of external "authorities" -- obedient to the voice of "God", gods, rulers, and leaders.

    The discovery that consciousness was never a part of nature's evolutionary scheme (but was invented by man) eliminates the missing-link in human evolution.

    Essentially all religious and most political ideas today survive through those vestiges of the obsolete bicameral mind. The bicameral mind seeks omniscient truth and automatic guidance from external "authorities" such as political or spiritual leaders -- or other "authoritarian" sources such as manifested in idols, astrologers, gurus. Likewise, politicians, lawyers, psychiatrists, psychologists, professors, doctors, journalists and TV anchormen become "authoritarian voices".

    There is much more material on this website to explore but I diverge here and use the preceding material to suggest that the FDS and anointed ones in the Jehovah’s Witnesses have brains that have not evolved as efficiently as the masses or perhaps are more prone to neurobiological factors that wire their brains differently. It has been my personal experience that every person I have met from the anointed class has heard voices; was deeply driven into the “God-authority” trip, and was mystical.

    Perhaps your experience was different, but on this site we have seen posts from several people who claim they were of the anointed class (You Know, Aguest) and you can tell by reading their posts that they don’t come from the same “mental space” as most of us do. Is it biological? I think it could have a strong neurochemical or neuropsychological link. After all, we can create auditory hallucinations and even visual hallucinations in the medical labs with simple equipment.

    This doesn’t mean they are insane, psychotic, mentally ill, or what ever negative label you want to place on them, but it does suggest that they process reality differently from the rest of us. Knowing that they think differently is perhaps one of the clues about why things are the way they are in the organization.

    Kind Regards,

    Skipper

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    That's very interesting reading. In his opinion, what were 'the gods' who the ancients heard, the right brain? Does he say anything about animals' unconsciousness?

    Thanks SS

  • 144thousand_and_one
    144thousand_and_one

    Thanks for diagnosing my problem, Skipper! I've always known I process reality different than others, but now, I know the reason for it.

    BTW, are you using those sears catalogs or can I borrow them?

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    After i read that, i went to the neotech page. I remembered the name eric savage. Here is something about him and his group. It's from http://legalminds.lp.findlaw.com/list/fedtax-l/msg02738.html More searching may turn up more info.

    _____________

    "!!++Chief- Parasite- eliminator" sallanngge@bellsouth wrote:
    >you have read all the material and are an expert analyist, posting your
    >proundty's is like farting in the north wind, if you are4 facing north

    2. Who is Dr. Frank R. Wallace?

    Frank R. Wallace, founder of the Neo-Tech cult, is actually one Wallace Ward. He also writes as Dr. Higgs Field and John Flint (JF).

    3. Is he really a Dr.?

    Yes. But despite what you might think by his choice of topics, he is not a physicist or a medical doctor. He was once an inorganic chemist at Dupont before he went into the far more lucrative field of gambling manuals.

    4. Why does he use a pen name?

    Two explanations have been offered by those inside the organization:

    "They hid behind pen names mostly to make the company appear larger than it really is. The company is really really small. But man do they have egos!
    Plus when you come right down to, they lied."
    "RE: "Why do they hide behind pseudonyms, anyway?"

    "I'm pretty sure it's so they can replace people without exposing the
    turn-over. So, while there have been a multitude of customer service mangers, there is only one Barbie Diamond, who the innocent customer might think is an I&O lifer. And of course, the names contain memes; like there are really beatuifull blondes covered in diamonds working at I&O!!!!!!!!!"

    5. Who are the real people behind Neo-Tech?

    Wallace Ward and his relatives. Here's some information on them partially based on a message by [email protected]:

    The Ward Family

    * Wallace Ward - creator of Neo-Tech. Writes under the name of Frank R. Wallace, Dr. Higgs Field, John Flint, and others. Estimated age: early 60s.
    Posts to the net as [email protected].

    * Rosa Maria Meono - Wallace Ward's wife. She claimed to be a witch. Estimated age: 60.
    May be posting to the net as [email protected] and [email protected], though her messages bear a striking resemblence to those written by her husband.

    * Ruth Ward - daughter of Wallace Ward by Helen Savage. Estimated age: 40.

    * Wallace H. Ward - son of Wallace Ward by Helen Savage. a.k.a. Mark Hamilton. Formerly married to T.J. (Terry), who left him. Estimated Age: 35.

    In a recent press release, he states that he is the actual owner of Neo-Tech Publishing:

    "My name is Wallace H. Ward, and I own Neo-Tech Publishing Company. My father, Wallace Ward (a.k.a. Dr. Frank R. Wallace) wrote the Neo-Tech Discovery and founded I & O Publishing Company in 1968."

    * Frank S. Ward - son of Wallace Ward by Helen Savage. a.k.a. Eric Savage.
    Posts to the net as [email protected] AKA 'J. Hampton' Estimated age: 31.

    * Steve Rapella - adopted son of Wallace Ward. Romantic Love Partner of Ruth Ward (last I heard). a.k.a. John Alberts. Estimated Age: 40.

    * Gary Twichell - Wallace Ward's right hand man. Smithers to Ward's Mr. Burns. Not related to the Ward family, Gary was recruited through the NT literature. Claims to have created KOAH. (see questions 22 & 23) AKA Drew Ellis AKA Kenneth Clark.

    6. What is I & O Publishing Company?

    Wallace Ward's original publishing business. I & O stands for 'Individualism and Objectivism.' Originally set up to sell Ward's first book 'Poker, A Guaranteed Income for Life by Using the Advanced Concepts of Poker', it was shut down in 1991 when Neo-Tech Publishing was formed to continue the work of selling Neo-Tech to the world.

    7. What are the Neo-Tech publications?

    The following books are listed in the 'official' bibliography on the web site. Other than the mysterious 'Poker Odds' book by Frank Wallace it was complete when it was created, at least so far as I've been able to determine. They put it up as a GIF of a chart which is poorly scanned and laid out.
    I have added a few items that weren't on the chart which have been
    announced since I transcribed it. Note that there have been many editions of some of the books listed incorporating many revisions, some quite substantive, so your copy of 'The Neo-Tech Discovery' may not be the same as someone else's brand new copy. I have tried to preserve the order of the chart, as well as including the full names and psuedonyms of the authors:

    * The Advanced concepts of Poker
    Frank R. Wallace - 1968 - (out of print)
    * Man's Choice/Eric Flame
    Frank R. Wallace - 1970/1972
    * Neo-Tech Reference Encyclopedia
    Frank R. Wallace - 1976
    * Neocheating
    Frank R. Wallace, Mark Hamilton and W. Swann - 1979
    * The Neo-Tech Discovery
    Frank R. Wallace - 1981/1986/1994
    * The Neo-Tech Protection Kit
    Frank R. Wallace et al - 1988/1994
    * Zonpower Discovery
    Higgs Field, Editor - 1992 (out of print)
    * Neo-Tech Cosmic Business Control
    Mark Hamilton - 1989
    * Cassandra's Secret
    Higgs Field, Editor - 1993
    (as Neo-Tech proudly proclaims 'Written in Prison')
    * Neo-Tech Global Business Control
    Eric Savage - 1992
    * Zon 2000
    The Golden Helmet
    Higgs Field, Editor - 1995 - on web site
    * Will America Go Neo-Tech
    Mark Hamilton - 11/3/95
    * ZonPower
    Higgs Field, Editor - 1995 - on web site ('The Full Matrix' says the chart - whatever that means)
    * Get Rich by 2001
    Mark Hamilton - 1996 - on web site
    Forthcoming:
    * The Zon Protocols - 1996
    (will be published in 'Cyberspace' - that is, to the Neo-Tech web page)
    * Flame-War Justice - 1997 (was this ever published? - PoaH)

    I have also seen a book entitled "Poker Odds" by Frank Wallace mentioned
    in rec.gambling.poker:

    "Does anyone know of a reference that contains the probabilities for a
    wide variety of situations for draw, stud, and holdem? So far the best I have been able to find is "Poker Odds" by Frank Wallace."

    - Subject: Probabilities in draw, stud, and holdem
    From: hein hundal < [email protected]>
    Newsgroups: rec.gambling.poker
    Date: 1995/08/29
    MessageID: 42096e$ [email protected]

    8. How much does this stuff cost?

    Here the one price list I have. More information on other products is
    always welcome.

    _NeoTech_Product_ _code_ _US$Price_

    Cosmic Power (Pincer One) P1M US$65.00
    Cosmic Business Control X0M US$99.95
    (Pincer Two)
    A Future of Wealth Belongs 43M US$29.95
    to You!
    Neo-Tech Job Power 60M US$99.95
    Rapid Power and Wealth B0M US$39.95
    Kick-Start Report 44M US$29.95
    The Ultimate Battle Tapes Q0M US$99.95
    Consultation Packages G1M US$99.95
    How to Start a Global 46M US$29.95
    Business
    Hot Tips 42M US$49.95
    Anatomy of Love CD 5CM US$19.95
    Anatomy of Love Cassette 5TM US$19.95
    Happiness Forever 90M US$24.95
    Neo-Tech Reference D0M US$59.95
    Encyclopedia
    Neo-Tech Treatment 70M US$30.00
    for Alcoholism
    Neo-Tech Pleasures Y0M US$17.50
    The Complete Neo-Tech 07M US$95.00
    Library

    Recently Tony Guzman provided this update to the above list:

    >_NeoTech_Product_ _code_ _US$Price_
    >
    >Cosmic Power (Pincer One) P1M US$65.00
    **most recent price I've received:.......US$89.95
    (out of print)

    (snip)
    >A Future of Wealth Belongs 43M US$29.95
    > to You!
    **most recent price I've received:.......US$20.00
    (out of print)

    >Neo-Tech Job Power 60M US$99.95
    **(out of print)

    >Rapid Power and Wealth B0M US$39.95
    **(out of print)

    >Kick-Start Report 44M US$29.95
    **most recent price I've received:.......US$20.00
    (out of print)

    >The Ultimate Battle Tapes Q0M US$99.95
    **(out of print)

    (snip)
    >Hot Tips 42M US$49.95
    **(out of print)

    (snip)
    >Neo-Tech Treatment 70M US$30.00
    > for Alcoholism
    **most recent price I've received:.......US$19.95

    >Neo-Tech Pleasures Y0M US$17.50
    **most recent price I've received:.......US$19.95

    (snip)
    These prices are supposedly for NT Discovery owners. Non-NT owners are charged a higher price. (snip)

    - From: [email protected](TonyGuzman)
    Newsgroups: alt.support.ex-cult,alt.neo-tech
    Subject: Re: Where's the products!!
    Date: 28 Jun 1996 14:56:18 GMT
    Message-ID: <4r0rqi$ [email protected]>

    9. Did Wallace Ward (Frank R. Wallace) really spend time in jail?

    Yes.

    10. What was he doing time for?

    The story began in 1986. According to an ex-employee of I&O publishing:

    "I took me a while after going to work for I&O before I got to the REAL explanation of the 1986 raid on I&O.

    "Wallace Ward/Zon's girlfriend got mad at him and ratted him out. She called up the IRS and and told them that Zon wasn't paying his taxes, and had a bunch of cash and gold stashed away in his home. The IRS showed up in their usual friendly style, and scarfed up the assets. And I believe that the girlfriend got a cut, since the IRS rewards informers. Since then, the incident has become 'fully integrated.'

    "Years later, Ward put up a series of billboards (typeset by BMXerToo)
    across the street from the Federal Building in Las Vegas. The IRS got
    pissed off, and hauled him in. Needless to say, the IRS would respond in xactly the same way for anyone who pulled such stunts."

    - From: [email protected]
    Newsgroups: alt.neo-tech
    Subject: 1986 Raid on I&O Publishing Co.
    Date: 23 Aug 1995 00:50:49 GMT
    Organization: Internet Providers of Florida

    11. Is Wallace Ward crazy?

    Never met him myself. But here's something to ponder:

    In article <3nn44d$ [email protected]>,
    Earl Baker < [email protected]> wrote:

    "I know one of Wallace's nieces; she said he lives in Las Vegas. They refer to him as "Wally" and she said he believes in 'romantic love'. Also he worked as a chemist at Dupont for many years. The family considers him crazy but generally harmless; and so do I."

    12. Is Neo-Tech/ZonPower a cult?

    Here are some testimonials by those who used to work for the Neo-Tech
    organization, I&O publishing:

    "But, upon gaining employment with these folks, I came to realize that
    nepotism rules. If you are not a family member your chances of making
    the big bucks they claim to offer is remote if not impossible. Long hours nd meager salaries are the norm for non-family members. Working for these people was interesting and even fun for a while. The whole idea of saving the world" is an appealing one. And to think that _you_ are a part of it is even more seductive. But unfortunately after a while the constant brow-beatings, the promises made but never kept, and the rampant nepotism begins to make the whole experience akin to a strained bowel movement. The whole organization would better serve the public at large if they weren't so blatantly condescending. They strut around acting as if they have been given secret information from advanced alien beings. It really is a bore."

    - From: [email protected]
    Newsgroups: alt.neo-tech
    Subject: Ex-Neo-Techer Speaks
    Date: 17 Aug 1995 19:33:58 -0400

    "The event that finally revealed to me the actual nature of these people was when they didn't keep their word. A $10,000 bonus was offered to all "core member" if certain business goals were met. When the principal of the company declared the goal achieved the bonuses were disbursed to all "core members" excluding myself. It was deemed I was too immature. That pretty much told me exactly what these folks think about their employees. They even had the nerve to ask one employee to return his bonus after they had given it him!

    "Unless you have been employed by these happy people, you can never
    fully understand the outrageous hipocrisy that pervades everything they do.
    Mistakes made by the principals of the company were simply laughed off.
    Mistakes made by employees were dealt with in the most severe manner.
    Many times I was fined a significant amount of money for misspellingg a word."

    - From: [email protected]
    Newsgroups: alt.neo-tech
    Subject: Re: Ex-Neo-Techer Speaks
    Date: 17 Aug 1995 23:00:29 -0400

    "I began questioning my involvement in the company directly following
    the infamous monthly meeting where a bust of Christ was smashed to pieces with a sledge hammer by JF. The statue rested on the table surrounded by live microphones. I was recording the meeting and wore headphones, not knowing what was about to occur. Hours later, after regaining my hearing I was accused of doing speedballs and other drugs. I was temporarily fired and then re-hired a week later. (Matt referred earlier to this incident as the Great I&O Purge of 1988.) After this incident, the common question running throughout the company (outside the family) was "Is this a cult?""

    -'Rocket Rod', posted to the net by
    From: [email protected]
    Newsgroups: alt.neo-tech
    Subject: Re: Ex-Neo-Techer Speaks
    Date: 25 Aug 1995 20:45:35 -0400

  • IslandWoman
    IslandWoman

    You are joking, right?

    Hard to tell, maybe you posted in the wrong forum.

    IW

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