September 15 2012 quote.

by DATA-DOG 6 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    Does anyone know what WT article the following quote came from? I am interested in the context of the article, and as usual there is no source mentioned for the rank-and-file to check.

    " Brethren, those of us who are in the right attitude toward God are not disappointed at any of His arrangements. We did not wish our own will to be done; so when we found out that we were expecting the wrong thing in October 1914, then we were glad that the Lord did not change his plan to suit us. We did not wish Him to do so. We merely wish to be able to apprehend His plans and purposes."

    By the way in the same paragraph the GB humbly admits to not being inspired! How nice of them.

  • Jeffro
    Jeffro

    It's from The Watch Tower of February 1, 1916, as quoted in the Proclaimers book, page 63.

    For full context, see original text at http://www.mostholyfaith.com/bible/reprints/Z1916FEB.asp

  • blondie
    blondie

    Note that was 2 years after 1914 and before Russell died on October 31, 1916 disappointed. The WTS loves to rewrite history knowing most will be dead who lived then, and the living will have little access to the publications back then.

    www.ctrussell.us

    WTS publications from 1879 to 1916

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    (((((( Thank you both! ))))))

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    Ok so here is the article.

    TYPICAL EXPERIENCES OF ELIJAH AND ELISHA

    What a stenographer reported from one of Brother Russell's meetings.

    BEFORE we leave the dear friends here to go to another city, some of you will wish to say, "Brother Russell, we may not see you again for quite a while; and we wish you would say something about the hopes of the Church for the near future. Do you think that the Church will be changed very soon?" We answer, We do not know. We admit that there are many things that we do not know. If we knew all about the Book of Revelation, we would get out the Seventh Volume very soon. There are a few things of which we are not just sure. We do not like to do any guess-work. We could guess about some things, but we do not allow ourself to guess. "If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God."-- 1 Peter 4:11.

    "But, Brother Russell, what is your thought as to the time of our change? Were you not disappointed that it [R5845 : page 38] did not come when we hoped that it would?" you will ask. No, we reply, we were not disappointed. Two years before that time we pointed out in THE WATCH TOWER that we did not think the change would come October, 1914. But, Brethren, those of us who are in the right attitude toward God are not disappointed at any of His arrangements. We did not wish our own will to be done; so when we found out that we were expecting the wrong thing in October, 1914, then we were glad that the Lord did not change His Plan to suit us. We did not wish Him to do so. We merely wish to be able to apprehend His plans and purposes.

    "What do you think of things now?" you ask. "What would you think are the present indications?" To this we say, We have already mentioned in THE WATCH TOWER and in talks given to the friends what is our thought as to the type of Elijah and Elisha in the close of the earthly career of the Prophet Elijah. We will briefly refer to it again here, and perhaps might add a word further. We recognize that the Church of God is the antitype of Elijah because she is, with her great Head, The Christ of God. It is The Christ in the flesh that antitypes the Prophet Elijah. His experiences during his career as God's Prophet typified the experiences of The Christ class during all the more than eighteen hundred years of their earthly career. His closing experiences would parallel, we understand the Scriptures to teach, the closing experiences of the last members of the Christ Body in the flesh.

    Two years before what? Before 1914? Is this an early example of revisionist history? Is this what you were referring to Blondi? In 1916 they were saying that pre-1914 they were teaching something that they really were not? They were teaching that 1914 was the END, right? 1874 was Christs invisible return, the GT was in full swing and Armageddon would be OVER in 1914. Then in 1916 they are claiming they did not make those claims?! WTH, this is confusing....

  • blondie
  • sseveninches
    sseveninches

    Like someone else mentioned in another thread, they may not claim to be inspired, but they do claim to be "spirit-directed". Is there a difference? Not to me. If anything, "spirit-directed" means more than "spirit-inspired".

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