When mothers "mother" too much

by skeeter1 5 Replies latest social family

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    What do you suggest? I run far away, but I have to always deal with family around this time of year. One day, all of this will "try" to be dumped on my household. I am now hearing rumblings of it.

    My in laws have their almost 40 year old daughter living with them. She is a teenaged, out of wedlock mom, finally got her GED, went to college several times only to end in failure. The last time was the most promising, but she dropped out. She had learning disabilities as a kid, and likely now too. She was doing great, as long as she didn't have to also hold a job. But, when she got 2 semesters away from her associates, my mother-in-law started putting pressure on her to "get a part time job" due to, perhaps, some money issues. The next thing I knew, she got a job, full time, and started to fail school and dropped out. She now works as a cashier in a five-and-dime/convenience store.

    Then, I suggested my sister-in-law get a professional job, like a real estate agent. It only was a weekend of schooling. Well, my mother-in-law immediately "pooed" htat idea. "She could be raped showing houses!" If you saw my sister-in-law, she's HUGE and while it is possible to rape her . . . I'd fear the rapist could be squashed to death. So, I said, "What, is being a clerk in a convenience store any safer?"

    Both of my in-laws poo-poo their daughter's parenting abilitiies, right or wrong. My sister-in-law is a good person, but has no self esteem. My in-laws have had to raise her children alot of the time, so I understand their gripe too. It's pretty embarrassing, as its done openly.

    Now, her daughter had a baby, teenaged birth. As I predicted, the boy father is long gone. I have begged my niece to get to college, get a job, get a driver's license, etc. She is 19 and has done NOTHING towards her goals. And, my in-laws complain some. My niece is "thinking about it" (for the past year).

    Now, I hear that my niece doesn't want to get a job becuase the "boyfriend or her friends may come at her work." First of all, she has no job for them to even come to. Second, he has a new girlfriend to occupy his time, so I don't think he gives a yak's butt about the niece. Third, I told the in-laws that bosses love to run out the ex-s and do so with a little threat. So, I asked my in-laws about this new, irrational fear of my nieces.

    Know what the mother in law first says? "Oh, her boyfriend ruining her job is my fear. I think he'd do it." I so realize that the my mother-in-law uses fear and manipulation to control her daughter and granddaughter to keep them close. If they don't have a job, a good paying job, then they are super easy to keep at home. This is all empty-nest syndrome. I called her out on it, and she said, "Oh, I never told her that." (HMMMMM.....I wonder if she told someone else in the family who then told my niece . . . . who will use it as an excuse to stay home).

    So, now my sister-in-law wants to move to where we live. She's in no position to be independent. You see, it's all about to be dumped on my lap.

    My in-laws are in their 60s, and all of this being a martyr is about to get old for them. Oh, they are already complaining.

    My God, if my sister-in-law and niece ever wake up to realize that their (grand)parents, though good meaning, have coddled them to being at the state of a 14 year old in taking care of themselve - they will be VERY ANGRY.

    So, the point is to all mothers and to my own mother. THANK YOU FOR KICKING ME IN THE RUMP (TO GO AND FIGHT LIFE) when I needed it. The goal of motherhood should be to produce independent children.

    What do I say? I think I run away and hide. They need to be on Dr. Phil. It's maddening.

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    " What do you suggest?"

    Refuse to be the dumpee.

  • zeb
    zeb

    Momeee Momeee.

    We were going away and asked an 18 yo brother to house sit in our house. To come and go but to effectively live in our house while we were away tend to the animals.

    It did not happen he could not be away from Mommee and she couldnt see him away on his own.

    My sympathies to you in your situation. "Might be raped showing houses" is a typical horror story dernial that ignorant insecure people will put out.

    Heavens tell her not to go outside as she might be hit by a meteor!

  • PaintedToeNail
    PaintedToeNail

    skeeter-This is an important topic. Many mothers sabotage their own kids, forcing their own fears upon their offspring. My mother tried to, and sometimes succeeded, in doing this to me, but I got out of the house. I never did get the education I wanted, but did end up with a decent job in law enforcement.

    Since having my own kids, I have established time thresholds for them to be out of the house and on their own, telling them by the age of 23, they WILL be out, living their own lives. My teenager wants to move to an expensive, tropical area. Many who hear of his plans pooh pooh him, including my mother, but I keep telling him to go for it. Get an apartment there and look for room mates, find a niche not being filled very well job wise, get as much education as you possibly can.

    It is always sad to see people leading stunted lives. Kids need to make mistakes to grow into strong adults. Parents need to let their kids fail sometimes and not pick up the pieces for them.

    There are occasions when an adult child may need to temporarily live with the parents i.e., house fire, health, downsizing...but don't make your adult kid dependent on you, and adult kids, don't let your parents make you dependent on them...live you own life...get out of the house.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    It's codependence. The mother needs to be needed. So, she sobotages the developing independence of her kids. She feels righteous and justified. Afterall, look at all the good things she's doing for her kids.

    Pink floyd 'the wall' is about this. Here are the lyrics to one of the songs on the album:

    "Mother"

    Mother do you think they'll drop the bomb
    Mother do you think they'll like the song
    Mother do you think they'll try to break my balls
    Ooooh aah, Mother should I build a wall
    Mother should I run for president
    Mother should I trust the government
    Mother will they put me in the firing line
    Ooooh aah, is it just a waste of time
    Hush now baby, baby don't you cry
    Mama's gonna make all of your
    Nightmares come true
    Mama's gonna put all of her fears into you
    Mama's gonna keep you right here
    Under her wing
    she won't let you fly but she might let you sing
    Mama will keep baby cosy and warm
    Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe
    Of course Mama's gonna help build the wall

    Mother do think she's good enough for me
    Mother do think she's dangerous to me
    Mother will she tear your little boy apart
    Oooh aah, mother will she break my heart
    Hush now baby, baby don't you cry
    Mama's gonna check out all your girl friends for you
    Mama won't let anyone dirty get through
    Mama's gonna wait up till you get in
    Mama will always find out where
    You've been
    Mamma's gonna keep baby healthy and clean
    Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe
    You'll always be a baby to me
    Mother, did it need to be so high. S

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