Surgeon takes care due to blood restriction?

by stocwach 3 Replies latest jw friends

  • stocwach
    stocwach

    I'm wondering if a portion (THE PART IN BRACKETS)of the following respone I got from a dub re: the controversial blood policy sounds eerily familiar to anyone else, like it does me? I mean, I could swear I saw a post by someone not long ago almost verbatim, which if I could find the post would make it appear to be kinda like a canned "theocratic warfare" defense line or something:

    "1) What are your thoughts on the blood issues I brought up in my earlier email? Do you agree that it is quite controversial and contradictory?
    I ACTUALLY HAVEN'T READ THEM, VERY BUSY, AUX PIONEERING THIS MONTH, MY NIECE IS GETTING MARRIED, EVERYONE IS SO BUSY. BUT, I DON'T NEED TO READ IT. THE BIBLE SAYS TO ABSTAIN FROM BLOOD, SO I DO. EVEN THE WORLD IS TRYING TO ABSTAIN FROM BLOOD NOW BECAUSE OF ITS PROBLEMS THAT CAN COME WITH IT. PEOPLE MAKE WAY TO MUCH DEAL OUT OF THE BLOOD ISSUE. VERY RARELY DOES SOMEONE DIE FROM NOT HAVING BLOOD. [[[[[I HAD SURGERY, AND WAS VERY CLEAR TO MY DOCTOR THAT I WOULD NOT ACCEPT BLOOD, AND MADE SURE HE WAS VERY CLEAR ON IT. YOU KNOW WHAT HE DID? HE TOOK A 2 HOUR SURGERY, AND MADE IT A 4 HOUR SURGERY, AND CLOSED UP AS HE WENT ALONG INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL THE END TO CLOSE UP ALL OF IT. MY HE TOLD ME I LOST VERY LITTLE BLOOD BECAUSE HE DID IT THIS WAY FOR ME. IN THE END, I HAD VERY LITTLE PAIN, AND MY SCARS WERE THE BEST HE HAD EVER SEEN, AND HE ATTRIBUTED IT TO THE FACT THAT HE TOOK HIS TIME BECAUSE OF THE BLOOD ISSUE. MY FRIEND HAD THE SAME EXACT SURGERY, SAME DOCTOR, BUT DIDN'T TELL HIM SHE WAS A WITNESS, SHE HAD THE WORST PAIN OF HER LIFE, AND HAD TO HAVE OTHER SURGERIES TO REPAIR SCARS.]]]]] ANYWAYS, THIS IS JUST A SIDE POINT. REGARDLESS, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IF I SAID NO BLOOD ON SIMON, THE COURTS WOULD JUST TAKE OVER AND DO IT ANYWAYS. SO I GUESS WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? I WOULD STILL BE FURIOUS, AND PURSUE LEGAL ACTION, BUT WHAT IS EVERYONE IN SUCH AN UPROAR ABOUT. IT IS OUR BODY. EVERYONE WANTS TO LET WOMEN MAKE THEIR OWN DECISION ABOUT THEIR BODIES AND ABORTION, WHY DO THEY HAVE SUCH A FIT ABOUT THE DECISION WE MAKE? "

  • LB
    LB

    Just in case genius boy wants to consider something send him this. The longer you are under general anesthesia the more dangerous the surgery is and the longer recovery takes. Maybe those extra couple of hours under the knife weren't the best plan ever.


    Never Squat With Yer Spurs On

  • dungbeetle
    dungbeetle

    The issue is 'informed choice'.

    If he hasn't taken the time to read something that could save/cost his life, then any medical decision he makes is not informed. A surgeon/hospital that accepts a consent form from someone like this is BEGGING to be sued.

    And as I keep saying untill I'm blue in the face, these kinds of procedures---planned/elective surgery-aren't the ones that occur the massive (and ever more public)loss of life.

    The tirck with these people is to get rid of the scriptures. The issue, just as this pperson rightly said, is not a matter of law. Push it around to discuss the expulsion/shunning issue. The BIBLE does NOT say it is an expulsion/shunning issue. Never mind the damned blood itself---you can SEE that's a lost cause.

    The expulsion/shunning issue is the weak link. IT AIN'T RAGU--IT AIN'T IN THERE!!!! THAT'S the issue---and the real issue--to be discussed. THAT will get them thinking, but won't back them into a corner YOU can't get out of.

    dungbetle---of the 'my whole family is out now' class...

  • TheStar
    TheStar

    dungbettle,

    I need help defending myself on this issue. I see your point, but need more info. Can you please email me by clicking on the envelope icon underneath my name? Thank you in advance.

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