It's not your lifestyle that gets you shunned, it's your label.

by donny 7 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • donny
    donny

    A coworker of mine who is married to a JW and I were sitting at break and he asked me why is it that JW's don't shun you for your lifestyle instead of a label they paste upon you. I kind of knew what he meant but I asked him for some details. He went on to explain the situation of one of his in-laws.

    This 3rd generation JW person has 3 kids all of whom were baptized as teenagers. (All are in their mid to late 20's now)

    Kid #1 was disfellowshipped 5 years ago for having sex with his fiance a week before the wedding. He has been married to this same girl since then and is doing well for himself but he has made no real attempt to get reinstated but has no real conflicts with his parents beliefs.

    Kid #2 married a JW when she was 18, divorced him at 20 and pretty much quit attending meetings except for the occasional assembly or memorial. She married a Marine at 22 and he died in combat 11 months later. About 6 months later she took up living with a boy she knew in school and has fathered a kid with him. She has no interest in her childhood faith.

    Kid #3 has never married and pretty much took the college and career path. She is doing quite well and declares herself to be agnostic and says religion is mostly a pile of steaming B.S., especially the JW's.

    When this in-law's wife had a large "gathering" at their family home recently for a fellow members baby shower, all three kids were at the house. People freely chatted with the kids 2 and 3 but shunned kid #1.

    This non-JW co-worker said this didn't make any f****in sense to him at all. He said "They are not shunning someone like they did in the bible. The bible says to quit fellowshipping with someone who is a believer and is practicing or living an immoral lifestyle. While I am not a believer, I can understand what that bible citation is saying. My nephew made one mistake and has since lived, according to their teachings, a clean lifestyle.

    "My two nieces have and continue to practice what their teachings state is a reason to shun someone, yet they have free access to roam and chat with other JW's. So it is obvious to me that you are not shunned for your lifestyle, instead you are shunned for your label which is assigned to you by the elders. And they really think that I would join such a religion that practices such an obvious error in practice?"

    So this non JW fellow can clearly see the obvious. It is not about lifestyle that makes you "bad", it's about what label you are assigned from the ones in charge of label assignment.

    D

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    You can imagine what it is like for us, where my hubby is marked as a first-generation "spiritually weak" believer and I'm an "unbelieving mate". Our lifestyle is so clean it squeaks. Nevertheless, I am offered bland invitations to the meetings with no interest in my intelligence, my thoughts, or my beliefs.

    We are classed slightly below the village idiot.

  • donny
    donny

    I can inmagine it. I have felt the same type of mentality in my sojourn through the Watchtower.

  • Londo111
    Londo111

    How did you answer your coworker?

    My answer would be: Cults don't make sense.

  • whathappened
    whathappened

    Once a Witness is disfellowhipped, they can stop doing the thing they got disfellowhipped for, start leading a totally moral lifestyle, but if they don't return to the Kingdom Hall, they are still shunned. It's not believing that is the sin.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    Once a Witness is disfellowhipped, they can stop doing the thing they got disfellowhipped for, start leading a totally moral lifestyle, but if they don't return to the Kingdom Hall, they are still shunned. It's not believingnot drinking the koolaid that is the sin.

    Your statement was "close". I think this is more correct.

    Doc

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    That is totally the scenario. I've seen people shunned for minor reasons, and yet I saw pregant sisters walking into the hall from their live in boyfriend and they are love bombed.

  • donny
    donny

    I told the co-worker that he hit the nail on the head. It's all about control and manipulation and nothing to do with keeping the congregation "clean."

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