Fraud

by lovecoogee 8 Replies latest watchtower scandals

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  lovecoogee

  My friend was a JW and gave signatuory rights to her business accounts to her good friend, Sue, a regular pioneer. Sue is married to a much older man, John and they have two boys. My friend was welcomed into their home and lived with them for 4 years. During this time an elder, Michael discussed the couple's marriage difficulties. Michael admitted to my friend that John had told him the only thing keeping Sue in the house was my friend living there.

  My friend drifted away from JWs and the meetings and eventually moved out. Sue began stalking my friend, driving past her house at midnight, convincing JWs in the area to shun my friend to the point that people would cross the road if she was walking towards them, getting regular pioneers to come into her shop and talk photos of her and other forms of harassment.

  Then my friend discovered anomolies in her accounts and in short, the fraud squad began to investigate more than $120 000 of missing funds. Because my friend gave Sue signatory rights a long time ago, she now can only fight it in court. They keep postponing and increasing legal costs to the point that my friend has now declared bankruptcy as she has no money left. They managed to put a caveat on her apartment so the bank is selling it. John has told the elder Michael that he is willing to repay the money as they are very wealthy. But now the elders do not want to get invovled because my friend is not going to meetings!!!

  I cannot believe that this elder knows of the wrongdoings and has admitted this couple are a law unto their own and he will do nothing to stop this.
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  Amelia Ashton

  I cannot believe that this elder knows of the wrongdoings and has admitted this couple are a law unto their own and he will do nothing to stop this.

  Sadly, I can believe the elder knows of wrongdoing and is not prepared to do anything to support the innocent party. I feel for your friend because I too believed JWs were honest until I learned personally and the hard way that some most defnitely are not.

  When the corrupt elder changed congregations and almost immediately was made an elder again in his new one I realised it was either possible to fool the holy spirit or holy spirit had no part in the appointment of elders.

  It leaves a very nasty taste once you have got over the initial disbelief that it even happened in the first place.
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  zeb

  I attended a 'commitee meeting' over a financial matter. Advice? Be spiritual, pray. Go to the meetings. Do your field service. No mention of the other brother paying back what he owed. He was a dumbstruck by this as i was.

  Time later said brother came into money. I asked elders for the meeting records. Reply? "No records and it wasnt a real committee meeting."I understand now a days as it is not a real religion.
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  lovecoogee

  It just seems unbelievable that no one will defend my friend. She came from a disadvantaged background and that regular pioneer is a known nutter but she gets protection being a hypocrite attending meetings yet my friend has no one. I just wish I could do something for her.
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  DesirousOfChange

  Your Elder friend is not only supporting the "active" JW in the dispute, he is likely supporting the wealthy JW in the dispute. After all, the broke friend of your has nothing to offer him.

  Doc
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  hoser

  The experiences that I had with fraud in jw land are that the elders will most likely blame the victim and tell them to forgive and not disrupt the peace of the congregation.

  I learned my lesson about dealing with fellow jehovahs witnesses in business.

  I now only have business dealings with certified "worldly" individuals.

  Reasons

  If they steal you can call the police

  If they commit fraud you can sue

  If they are no good as employees you can fire them
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  punkofnice

  lovecoogee -

  I just wish I could do something for her.

  You can only be there for her in whatever capacity you can.

  The only other thing is to inform people when appropriate, that are not JWs just how corrupt JWs are (without mentioning names).

  Unwitness, unwitness, unwitness!

  the more awareness is spread of the vile effects the WBT$ has on people's lives is the fewer that will join. The fewer that join is hurting the GB in their pockets......where it hurts most!
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  williamhconley

  Your friend needs to call the police & write the branch. Also call problem solvers or the local news station. Evil wins when good people do nothing.
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  JeffT

  Ok, I'm an accountant. The following is based on general US pracitce and laws.

  Signatory power on a company bank account do not give you the right to write checks to yourself. By "fraud squad" do you mean the police? If they are not pursuing this they are not doing there job. Your friend needs a lawyer that will push this, tell her to call legal aid. If this really involves 120K it might be federal bank fraud. Call to the feds wouldn't hurt.

  If your friend is in the state of Washington PM me.