Traditions of men, Mark 7;8 Matt.23;5-12, A little clarification please.

by jam 4 Replies latest jw experiences

  • jam
    jam

    Jesus speaks of traditions of men in Matt. 23;5-12 use special

    religious titles to distinguish ourselves above other bretheren

    by wearing special clerical garb, having special seats of honor

    and etc.

    OK, are we not all following traditions of men by choosing the

    same religion as our grand parent our parents. If you were born

    in India, what are the chances you are raised as a Mormon or JW.

    Or born in Guatemala and raised as a Hindu.

    We are all guilty of this, it all depends on the location we were born.

    So my question, is this the point Jesus was making, "setting

    aside the commmandments of God for the sake of your traditions.

  • *lost*
    *lost*

    Jam - yes I believe so.

    It's the difference with the physical (man) and the spiritual(man), is my understanding. Some people (christians) believe in spiritual things some people don't (not christian). There are many diff types of belief systems, we know the basis's for them and can also independentally study them and learn/research/qestion them for ourselves. That is the teaching of the ORG. This is what I was taught. The REALITY though of the real world and living in it is a differant beast altogether.

    It's a lifestyle choice based on a moral code and goodness, which people are free to want if its there choice. Not every jw is bad - not everyjw is good. It's the nature of man.

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    Reading the context will explain what Jesus was talking about.

    The Pharisees in particular had placed rules-legalism- above the more important "weightier" matters of the Law. If you look at verse 23 in that same chapter, you'll see what Jesus was talking about. The Pharisees were observing the rules of the Law by offering the 10% tithe as a sacrifice while at the same time were practicing injustice, being unfaithful and unmerciful. As Jesus said, these things (tithes) were "binding" but not at the disregard of the other things (mercy, faithfulness, justice).

    Jesus continually stressed that rules were never more important than showing kindness to others. At Mt. 9:13 he said, "go then, and learn what this means, 'I want mercy and not sacrifice'".

    His illustration of breaking the Sabbath Law in order to rescue an animal that falls into a pit is a case in point. Keeping the Sabbath was not as important as saving a life.

    You don't have to agree with the edicts of the Law or believe in the Bible; I'm just pointing out what's there.

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    To your point: tradition is notnecessarily the same as culture. If a person was born in India, and knows no other way of life, he or she can hardly be faulted for not being a Christian if they've never been exposed to Christianity (or any other religion for that matter). Tradition, in a religious context, is simply adhering to a certain way of doing things, even if you know they are not required or Biblical, in the case of Christianity. For example, The Catholic Church openly admits that many of their "traditions" have no Biblical support, but they do it anyway because it's tradition.

    "setting aside the commandments of god": which god? India/Hinduism has thousands of them. In man's history there have been about 30,000 of them. So, which tradition and which god are you setting aside in order to please the next, supposedly better, one? Take your pick- you have a .00003% chance of being right!

  • jam
    jam

    Thanks lost: So true, "It,s a lifestyle choice based on a moral code

    and goodness".

  • jam
    jam

    And don,t call me shirley. THAT WAS MY POINT.

    "So, which tradition and which god are you setting aside

    in order to please the next. You have a .00003% chance

    of being right. LOL

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