The Apostle answers some questions...

by TheApostleAK 9 Replies latest jw friends

  • TheApostleAK
    TheApostleAK

    Prisca wrote:

    Here http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=4561&site=3 you said the elders refused to let you get baptised. That thread was dated April 19, 2001.

    Here's your summary of your witness life: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=5101&site=3 where you admit to never being baptised, and that you were a publisher for a year and a half.

    So why go to the trouble of disassociating yourself when you weren't even baptised?

    I got baptised on the 26th of May 2001 (I told you in chat one day but u just ignored me....I actually told you a few things and u just ignored me).....I DA'd 10 months later.....

    That DA in April thing was cos I was pissed cos they wouldn't baptise me......they phoned me the night b4 the assembly to say I could be baptised.

    But then, in your letter to the BOE you make this request:

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    I would also like to have a copy of my congregational records as well as a copy of my baptism video.
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    You've obviously distanced yourself from your original cong for at least a year, and you even boasted of giving the elders a fake address in April 2001 to send your publisher records to. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=5032&site=3

    So in the last 12 months, did you suddenly have a change in lifestyle so much so that the BOE (in whichever cong you're now in) decided to let you get baptised?

    They're desperate for baptism candidates these days!!!!!

    I've been in 4 congs since I become a publisher. As for me still studying, I studied the Worship book after I was baptised till I finished it in Jan/Feb this year.

    I was a Aux Pioneer from Feb-Aug last year. I was baptised half way thru that.

    Oh that worldly girlfriend was a passing thing. She went on the elders advice..

    Refiners Fire wrote:

    Now just about every thread youve ever posted since is full of crazy notions like Picketing Assemblies,Going on rampages at Kingdom halls, public protests,Writing books exposing JWs,etc etc.
    Those ones were mainly asking for info from longtime posters, XJW's and 'Apostates' here (Like did any of that happen?). I'd never picket or start a riot at a KH.

    Refiners fire: U aren't a secret Watchtower mole are you? You seem to know alot about me yet I've never met you.............

    From Alan (I'll be posting my full story soon)

  • Prisca
    Prisca

    AK,

    So let me get this straight.

    In April you decide you want nothing to do with the witnesses, so you tell your cong you're moving interstate, give them a false address to send your records to, and move in with a girlfriend.

    Then you suddenly have a complete change of heart. You get your records from your friend, give them to the elders in a new congregation, and tell them you'd like to get baptised. In the course of a couple of weeks, the elders welcome you back into the fold, you go through the questions with the elders, and there just happens to be a circuit assembly the following month so you get baptised in late May.

    I really don't think the elders in Adelaide can be that "desperate" nor that stupid.

    Ak, I don't mean you any malice, but I am trying to work out the truth of the whole thing. You've told me conflicting things in the past about your JW life, and there's just too many holes in your story.

  • TheApostleAK
    TheApostleAK

    Aaaarrrrrggggghhhhhh! This is just like the Elders visit last Sunday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Satanus
    Satanus
    Refiners fire: ... You seem to know alot about me yet I've never met you............

    He knows more about you, than you know about you. He's psychic. heehee

    SS

  • butalbee
    butalbee

    (((((((SCREAMING)))))))))

    Edited cuz I just can't spell tonight.

  • Prisca
    Prisca

    Thanks for adding the additional points. I don't mean to come across as being picky, or inferring you have ulterior motives for posting, but us guys here in Oz are a little wary of people asking for sympathy. We're a small group, and it's a small world in the WTS in Australia. Many of us are not df'd nor da'd, so we have to look out for each other. And many of us have been witnesses all our lives, so anything that doesn't add up starts to smell fishy to us.

    On a positive note, I am glad to see that your experience with the WTS hasn't scarred your relationship with God.

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    So you got baptized on May 26, 2001 huh?

    Thats a mere 10 days after you posted a thread offering to dispose of your Watchtower books.
    About 14 days before you announced you were writing a very important expose of the WT in the form of your biography.

    You are certainly the weirdest Newly Baptized dub Ive ever encountered.
    Even weirder than poster "Nimrod". And thats saying something.
    Still, maybe you had ulterior motive for getting baptized, maybe you just wanted a proper insider experience as a baptized person eh?
    While you dug for info to expose them.
    You must admit, none of the threads youve posted over the past year is anything other than SEVERELY CRITICAL of the WT.
    It caused me to wonder if you were what you said you were.

    I was a Aux Pioneer from Feb-Aug last year. I was baptised half way thru that.
    Well, dont forget, you DID disassociate yourself in APRIL,
    And in MAY..
    Ok, I left JW's a week and a half ago saying I was moving to a Congregation in Melbourne for a job there. When really I was moving across the city taking a chick with me to live with her (to be near the job). My cong thinks I moved to Melbourne.

    Anyway, forget it, I probably wouldnt understand your explanation of this discrepancy either.

    Apologies if ive offended.

  • sunstarr
    sunstarr
    I was a Aux Pioneer from Feb-Aug last year. I was baptised half way thru that.

    Perhaps the policy in Australia is different, but last I knew, a JW could not hold the title of "Aux Pioneer" or any pioneer, for that matter, before baptism. One can only turn in time as an unbaptised publisher. Am I wrong??

  • Prisca
    Prisca

    You are correct, sunstarr. Although AK may have been doing the hours, he still would have been classified as an unbaptised publisher.

  • Dutchie
    Dutchie

    Auxillary Pioneering is considered a privilege. It is only granted to those baptized publishers who have shown themselves to be mature spiritual christians.

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