You Can Doubt The Bible, But Don't You Dare Doubt The bOrg

by Comatose 9 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  Comatose

  It's interesting how with believing friends and family you can openly doubt the bible. You can doubt the flood and talk about it. You can doubt the Old Testament. You can question the bible all you want with really close friends or family. But, you can not say one doubting word about "The Christian Congregation".

  They would rather hear you have doubts about Jehovah than a doubt about the society. lol

  Its one crazy messed up cult.

  It goes right over their head how warped it is to doubt the bible or god before doubting the FDS.
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  Pickler

  This reminds me of something someone put on a thread, a quote from a JW that they would....

  "rather be wrong with the WTBTS than right with anyone else"

  its a crazy kind of warped thinking isn't it?

  I think it's fear, the negative consequences of questioning the org are so great. If you are born in then you can literally never, ever, say or hear a word against the org. If you are baptised, then you can never safely question, or discuss anything.

  if you are raised in TT, then unquestioning obedience is how you are raised.

  even if this has no bible base, it's how it is.
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  Londo111

  It truly shows what is being worshiped…

  "Where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."
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  jws

  Really? When I was in, I didn't know anybody who would dare question the bible either.
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  Badfish

  Really? When I was in, I didn't know anybody who would dare question the bible either.

  You can bring up questions like, "I don't get it, how could Noah have fit all the animals on the ark?"

  Or "The sun standing still for Joshua doesn't make sense. What, did the earth stop turning for a whole day?"

  You can ask questions like this without being suspected of apostasy, but if you bring up any doubts or questions about the governing body being God's one true channel on earth, you will raise red flags and be a target of suspicion for apostasy.
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  Sapphy

  Yeah it's telling that the make or break question for apostacy or 'turning away from the faith' is not "do you still believe in Jehovah and Jesus?" it's "do you still believe this is God's organisation?".
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  Comatose

  Exactly. Have had talks with family. Main worry was about organization. Doubts on bible accounts went flying by.
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  yadda yadda 2

  Not sure I agree with you on that. I never experienced that in my 35 years as a JW, and I was a born-in. Questioning Jehovah or the inspiration of the Bible was anathema in my JW experience.
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  Phizzy

  When I had really woken up, but not shown my hand in any way,I turned it back on them, I said to an Elder that I wanted to prove to my kids that they should join the WT/JW's, and how could I prove to them (college educated critical thinking kids) that it was God's Org ?

  He had no answer, except he could "study" WT books with them, I said that they knew all that and it didn't convince them, what would prove it is God's Org ?

  He said he could offer no more.

  This is from a guy who would sit on a J.C and DF someone for not believing the WT is God's Org, but he has no proof !

  The whole thing would be hilariously funny, if it were not for the fact that like Nazi Germany and Communist Bloc countries, they have the power and the will to grind you to nothing for simply opposing the Party line.

  The WT and its supporting Elders are Totalitarian Bullies of the worst kind.
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  breakfast of champions

  This is 100% true. Just before I stepped down as an elder, I expressed my doubts to the PO about god, at least to the extent that he actually cares, and perhaps even whether he exists at all. The PO saw me as a broken man, struggling with my "issues" and was entirely sympathetic. I stepped down, and this was never pursued any further.

  What is amazing ,though, is that even after I began seriously doubting god and the bible, I still hung on to the idea of the society being the only true religion!

  I think this speaks volumes as to how this religion short-circuits reasoning skills, destroys critical thinking, and deeply programs its members with bullshit. Truly amazing.