The chat.

by obfuscatetheobvious 5 Replies latest jw friends

  • obfuscatetheobvious
    obfuscatetheobvious

    My best mate called me up this morning. Said he needed to tell me something. That he had been having doubts. That he had a meeting with the elders to express his doubts. That he was sure that they will not be able to provide an reasonable explaination for his doubts.

    Up till this morning he didn't know that I had faded (we live a long way from each other). I have tried to bring up the topic over the last couple years, but got some company answers + a brick wall = don't want to talk about it. After this mornings chat it all made sense. To me at least. He is pretty upset, he is sure that he is going to lose everything.

    He is a good man, loves his family, believes in morals and is trying his best to make this right within the framework of what he has been taught his whole life.

    We talked for about an hour or so. I don't know which way he will go and to be honest that is not my concern. I only hope to be the kind of support that I would want a friend to be for me. I don't know if I was that this morning.

    This organization has brought me the most amazing things - my wife = amazing, my kids = amazing, my mate and his family = amazing. That it is also a factor in the pain that affects me and mine, saddens me deeply.

    I hope that one day, I will not need to lean on you guys and the other people in my life that are helping me to make sense of it all. That day is a ways off yet and I want to say thank you, while I remember and in case I forget, for everything you have done for me.

    Cheers,

    Ob

  • Ding
    Ding

    Listening and caring is the best way to help.

    Things that bother him are much more likely to lead him out of the borg than issues you might initiate.

  • Captain Obvious
    Captain Obvious

    That is GREAT! I think all of us fantasize about having that conversation with some good friends. I know I certainly do. Does he have any idea how lucky he is that he chose YOU of all people to talk to about this? Anyone else would have run away screaming APOSTATE!!

    Just as long as your friend won't turn around and out you for any reason... And he should also know that he has you to come to when he's stressed or confused about WT issues.

    I look forward to reading your buddy's intro post on JWN!

  • whathappened
    whathappened

    There are so many people waking up now, I find it encouraging. It draws attention to the fact that the Watchtower is a scam. Hope your friend is able to come out of this with minimal discomfort. Let him know he is not alone. It was such a comfort to me when I found like minded people here on JWN.

  • obfuscatetheobvious
    obfuscatetheobvious

    Hey Ding,

    Thanks, listening and supporting is my plan, not sure I pulled it off as well as I would want to on reflection.

    I want my help to be unconditional. Whatever course he takes from here, I will support - even if that means him staying in and cutting me off so that he has no dissenting voice. That is part of what saddens me - change can be painful.

    Cheers,

    Ob

  • obfuscatetheobvious
    obfuscatetheobvious

    Hey Captain, if he outs me it's just another one of life's curveballs isn't it! I hope that he can chat to me about things, I didn't hold anything back this morning so he knows where I stand.

    Hey whathappened, when I started reading here, I, like you, just felt wave after wave of relief! I wasn't as alone as I thought! My mate is not ready for that yet but I did mention how I felt when I expanded my acceptable reading material to include this site.

    Cheers,

    Ob

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