Don't know Jehovah

Crazyguy

Where did the GB come up with the Idea that one has to know jehovah in order to be saved and survive armageddon? What scriptures??? The New testament is all about the spreading the 'Good News of Christ', so how did they come up with this crap?

Simon

They just needed a "unique selling point" to be different.

It's actually sign of incredible arrogance and delusional thinking to imagine that you along have interpreted the bible correctly and no one else on earth has. You're just sooo special. But then Russel and co were pretty full of themselves.

We so it in all the whacky religious types that post here from time to time trying to push their interpretations and ideas backed up by a bombardment of scriptures to back up their beliefs.

The bible ... it's like a touchstone for mental illness and brings the nuts out. Hey, maybe it does have a use after all.

whathappened

In the book of Ezekial it says about 65 times that you must call upon the name of Jehovah to get saved and must come to know Jehovah...for what it's worth.

Laika

It's one of their tactics, the more unique they are the better, so when you think something's up you go to...

'But only we use the name Jehovah' 'But Christendom celebrates Christmas/Birthdays/Has the Cross etc...' 'Only we do the preaching work' And so on

problemaddict

Well if you happen to believe in the bible for what its worth, its not a stretch to at least connect some import to God, his name, and his puposes. If you think the bible is another book of fable and explains what humans grasp with using story and hyperbole, than you probably don't think that way.

But the bible specifically doesn't have a problem with you knowing Jehovah if that is your cup o tea.

Cold Steel

The Jehovah's Witnesses also aren't aware that Jehovah of the Old Testament is Jesus of the New, though the scriptures are full of clues. When man fell, man immediately needed an intercessor between him and the Father (whose name is El, or Elyon). That intercessor was Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, and the God of Israel. The Old and New Testaments combine to proclaim him the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End, the Shepherd and Savior of Israel, and the great Judge of nations and mankind.

Every time they speak about Jehovah and his Son Jesus Christ, I cringe. If man needed a mediator from the beginning, then who was the mediator between the Father and Moses? Or between the Father and Abraham? Jesus couldn't have been the mediator unless he was Jehovah. After the Millennium, after the final battle of Gog and Magog, when Satan and his angels are banished, mankind has been judged and resurrected to their respective glories, and Earth redeemed and glorified; after this, Jehovah will offer up his stewardship to the Father and the Atonement will be complete.

And the WTBTS isn't the only religious group to use the name Jehovah in their worship. Many ex-JWs who go to other faiths are somewhat dumbfounded to discover the name in hymns, in recitations, sermons and devotional literature. Of course, because they aren't allowed to go to other churches, associate with members of other churches and because they're kept on a short leash, they tend to live in their own world.

The greatest problem with the Governing Board is that by their own admission, the WTBTS is not a church and they are not apostles, though they claim to draw on the same source in the same way. The board also has no certificate of authority by the Almighty, so to speak. How do they know Jesus inspected the world's religions in 1919? How do they know that God, who does not fail to notice the falling of a single sparrow, needed to inspect the world's religions? Further, how do they know God chose them? Did Joseph Rutherford kneel down and pray, "Oh, Jehovah, if we're not your legal representatives, tell me "no" now. But if I am your faithful and wise servant, Lord, just don't say anything!" [Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock] "Thank you, Lord! I thought so!"

So their claims to apostolic authority are shaky at best. Authority in the ministry is a major issue, not a peripheral one. So when a Jehovah's Witness speaks of "manmade churches," it's the height of irony.