I've heard alot of Jehovah's Witnesses say that the won't say that a Catholic person isn't going to be saved. Their resoning is that a Catholic person could be in the paradise. OK if a Catholic person can inherit the earth and a JW can inherit the earth, WHAT THE HELL DOES IT MATTER?
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by forgetmenot 6 Replies latest jw friends
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DakotaRed
Publicly, they will not state that other religions may be saved also. Privately, they do teach that only JWs will be the ones saved. Besides that, Catholics are not out selling the literature.
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
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flower
I've never heard a JW say that.
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Hyghlandyr
You are talking about landmine language here....generally this is the pattern of hopping from one foot to the other:
Non-witness: Do you believe that you are the only ones who will be saved?
Witness: No. Many millions who have lived in centuries past and who were not Jehovah's Witnesses will come back in a resurrection and have an opportunity for life.
Non-witness: Yes I understand that much about yall. But I mean, do you think when the end comes only Jehovahs Witnesses will be saved?
Witness:Well, many now living may yet take a stand for truth and righteousness before God's time of judgment, and they will gain salvation.
Non-Witness: Yes Gotcha. Those that are not Jehovah's Witnesses right now, but become witnesses, will be saved. But I am curious whether you think that people who never become Jehovah's Witnesses will be saved.
Witness: Um,Jesus said that we should not be judging one another. Humans look at the outward appearance; God looks at the heart. He sees accurately and judges mercifully. God has committed judgment into Jesus' hands, not ours.
Non-Witness: Yes that is what christians teach as well, that God and Jesus do the judging. So with that in mind, do the witnesses teach that god will only judge people able to be saved who are Jehovah's Witnesses, or will others, catholics, protestants, hindus, also be saved?
Witness:Why don't you celebrate holidays?
We commemorate the Memorial of Christ's .....um oops wait, the answer is right here somewhere, I scrolled too far down the FAQ.....http://www.jw-media.org/beliefs/beliefsfaq.htm
Non-witness in that conversation obviously is either an ex witness or an educated non-witness. Most non- witnesses would hear the schpeil and think that the witness was saying, yes other people who do not join the WTBTS are going to be saved in the end. When of course that is not what they are saying at all.
Many now living may yet take a stand for truth and righteousness
Taking a stand specifically means becoming one of Jehovahs Witnesses.Also from the Live Forever book we get this tidbit:
Do not conclude that there are different roads, or ways, that you can follow to gain life in God's new system. There is only one. There was just the one ark that survived the Flood, not a number of boats. And there will be only one organization--God's visible organization--that will survive the fast-approaching 'great tribulation.' It is simply not true that all religions lead to the same goal.(Matthew 7:21-23; 24:21) You must be part of Jehovah's organization, doing God's will, in order to receive his blessing of everlasting life.--Psalm 133:1-3
That is from page 255, paragraph 14. The heading is Choose Eternal Life in Paradise on Earth. It is chapter 30 entitled What You Must Do to Live Forever.Chapter 23, from pages 191-202, entitled God's Visible Organization makes it very clear that Jehovah's organization is in fact Jehovah's Witnesses.
Now I recall when the special talk about the donation arrangement was coming up. We knew something important was going on, but we of course did not know what. Many had speculated that marrying outside the organization was going to be a disfellowshipping offense. Yet others that the Society was going to declare plainly that only Jehovah's Witnesses were to be saved.
I have also heard the arguement from Witnesses since I left that they do not teach that only they are saved. In any case I never understood it back when I was a witness, or now that I am not.
Plainly they state that they are Jehovah's organization. PLainly they state that you must be a part of that organization in order to receive everlasting life. They do temper it with the requirement of doing God's will. But the fact is they have taught, that only they are saved.
Now of course everyone knows this is a completely unreasonable doctrine. The sister doctrine of christians, that only christians will be saved, has been met with challenge after challenge, by believers and unbelievers alike. What about people in China before Christ? And so forth. Because it is completely ludicrous that a deity should destroy or torment forever his creation, Jehovahs Witnesses are forced to claim they never taught that. Those who admit that the Society makes that claim, may themselves not believe it. But then like us, there were lots of things the Society claimed, and we did not believe them all, did we?
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Imbue
JWs don’t believe that they are automatically saved just because they‘re JW. They don’t believe in the 'once saved always saved doctrine of the Born Again’s.' God will judge the individual and we have no right to judge whether an individual will be saved by God. Some the less mature Jws may believe other wise.
Anyone paying attention wouldn’t think they will be saved...lol I know I didn’t. I could never live up the their human expectations and I haven’t even committed any gross sins. If you aren’t a pioneer than your wicked etc...
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
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anglise
If they dont believe they are the only religon that is right and the only ones to be saved why do they call it 'THE TRUTH'?
Quite simple reasoning and one they cant escape from!!! -
Naeblis
SAVE ME - Tea Party
I must leave you tonight my love, remain so faithfully
I must go off to war my dear, the kings await me
I will go so far away.
I will always love you, but you knew.I regret to tell you, your man has died tonight.
He was a brave man, he fought a brave fight.
He was killed by the other side.
He was killed by the other men's knives.She said save me
Save meWhy must you love this man, he is your brother?
This is easy to understand, my son, there is no other.
I cannot pretend to love this man Like my father.
I cannot pretend, mother, there is no other.She said save me
Save meWhen there is no truth, let's end this lie tonight.
This is easy to understand, without your best fight.
But I see a new sun rising in the east
But I see a new sun rising in the eastShe said save me
Save YOU!