Warning Concerning Antichrists
Yesterday I visited the last day of the JW convention: Your word is Truth. I was bored most of the program and when one of the speeches was being held I took the program and looked at the saturday part (apostate bladibla). Now... I will be attending the saturdaypart next week (and will try to make a copy in dutch of the talk). The text that was written next to that particular topic was the following 1 John 2:19 which states:
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for fif they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, gthat it might become plain that they all are not of us.
Now... I do hate it when things are taking totally out of context so here is a bigger part of the scriptures that quote came from
1 John 2
18 Children, ait is the last hour, and as you have heard that bantichrist is coming, so now cmany antichrists have come. dTherefore we know that it is the last hour. 19 eThey went out from us, but they were not of us; for fif they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, gthat it might become plain that they all are not of us. 20 But you have been hanointed by ithe Holy One, and jyou all have knowledge.4 21 I write to you, not because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and because no lie is of the truth. 22 Who is the liar but khe who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is bthe antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. 23 lNo one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. 24 Let mwhat you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then nyou too will abide in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is the promise that he made to us5—oeternal life.
26 I write these things to you about pthose who are trying to deceive you. 27 But qthe anointing that you received from him abides in you, and ryou have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything, and sis true, and is no lie—just as it has taught you, abide in him.
Ok... so what is the text REALLY telling us? Who ARE the antichrist? And maybe even more importantly: to WHOM was John speaking: people from OUR time or people from the past?
so what is the text REALLY telling us
1. the truth according to John is that Jesus the Christ ... the untruth (or lies) are those that do not confess that Jesus is the Christ
2. the antichrist was probably NEVER annointed and was NEVER with them for real. Like a Gestapo agent who tries to be part of a group, participates but has a other agenda (namely getting everyone out). The anti-christ was NEVER annointed in the first place, they were never REALLY a part of the Christian Congregation.
to WHOM was John speaking: people from OUR time or people from the past?
Children, ait is the last hour, and as you have heard that bantichrist is coming, so now cmany antichrists have come. dTherefore we know that it is the last hour.
The above is actually even more important because it shows that the whole talk is taking John totally out of contest... also... since JW's like to calculate things I would really like to know how I must see the "final hour" in the 1000 years=1 day idea? To me it shows that the anointing etc etc all has already taken place...