FALSE PREMISES = FACTS (in the world of the Governing Body)

by Terry 8 Replies latest jw friends

  • Terry
    Terry

    When the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses made chronology their focus they built on what others had done, said, asserted before them.

    That is their data source.

    The Adventists (William Miller in particular) used bible passages and also interpretations of certain perceived prophecies in books written by others--before him.

    We are not talking FACTS. We are talking surmise, conjecture, guesswork and preconceived supposition.

    None of these are facts! The Bible, as we all have come to regretfully acknowledge, is itself an estimate of things said and done which was first oral storytelling!

    Nothing comes from nothing.

    You can't be precise based on non-factual starting materials!

    If you wanted to figure out what the surface area of the earth is--how would you do it?

    By yourself, I mean.

    A process based on previous work of others is not the same as starting from pure evidence.

    Garbage in can lead to garbage out.

    A cockroach in your salad can be removed with a fork. Do you continue eating having removed it?

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    The process is the key to understanding!

    Facts are the SAME for everybody.

    Opinions about facts. . .distort those facts.

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    1914 as the second coming of Jesus is not FACT. It is opinion. Opinion based on what? Storytelling interpreted and estimated into writing! Based on what? Belief in the story.

    When a Jehovah's Witness sits down to "explain" how 1914 is contained in the Bible what are they really doing?

    They are basing their process on a series of weaker and weaker connections none of which is provable, demonstrable or actual data.

    If any part of any step is a false step the entire conclusion collapses into rubble.

    How would this be possible to detect?

    If any tentative estimate is used to create a prediction which does not take place in reality the initial premise is FALSE.

    To make a long story short: Jehovah's Witnesses are not much more than an organization of people who can believe the Earth is flat by writing numbers on a sheet of paper while ignoring photos from space satellites.

    Or, worse: an authoritarian regime who dominate the lives of unwitting believers who accept a long series of false premises as though they were facts.

    The Book of Genesis says of the Flood that ‘… all the high hills that were under the whole heaven were covered…’ Taken literally, this seems to indicate that there were 10,000 to 20,000 feet of water on the surface of the earth, equivalent to more than half a billion cubic miles of liquid! Since, according to biblical accounts, it rained for forty days and forty nights, or at least for only 960 hours, the rain must have fallen at the rate of at least fifteen feet per hour, certainly enough to sink any aircraft carrier, much less an ark with thousands of animals on board.

    – John Allen Paulos, Innumeracy

    You see, when we can test our imagined "facts" against actual facts the results can be quite devasting to our false premises.

  • eyeuse2badub
    eyeuse2badub

    Hi Terry,

    I was also a conscience objector during Viet Nam. I got hold of a lawyer named JB Tietz, he worked with Covington during WWII.

    I received a 2 year hospital 'sentence' and 3 additional years of probation.

    Anyway, commenting on your blog of False Premise, didn't you know that the earth was relatively flat prior to the Flood? For proof,

    just write to the WTBTS and they will 'convince you'! I'll read your book too.

    eyeuse2badub

  • eyeuse2badub
    eyeuse2badub

    The mountains and valleys appeared after the Flood as the earth dried up and wrinkled like a raisin or prune. Remember! lol

  • factfinder
    factfinder

    I was told that too! Before the flood the tallest mountains were only as high as a one or two story house!

    it was the pressure from the falling waters of the flood that caused the mountains to rise so high and the valleys were formed!

  • prologos
    prologos

    that is a new one, rain caused plate tectonics.

    monsoon pushed India into Tibet?

    voila Everest.

    May be that how they raised the pyramids 2700 bc with waterpressure from the synchronis flood.

    easy does it.

    with water only 30% the weight of the rock underneath that would work.

    Terry that is good points.

    I love it when WT articles start:

    "When Jesus took his Kingdom Throne in 1914----"

  • Terry
    Terry

    I once compiled a list of statistics about crime and world events as a quiz for JW's.

    I would go down the list and ask the JW to estimate the number of such and such.

    How many earthquakes, how many child kidnappings, how many murders, etc.

    Not to surprisingly, JW's are WAY HIGHER in their estimates than almost anybody else.

    The JW view of how hostile our planet is has been stoked into a pitch of fear and panic.

    Thanks for nothing Watch Tower Society.

  • eyeuse2badub
    eyeuse2badub

    JW's are always looking for a 'sign'. They get giddy when something really bad happens and point out how that was prophecied to happen. The culture is "when it's bad for everyone else , it's good for JW's."

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Terry - "Not too surprisingly, JWs are WAY HIGHER in their estimates than almost anybody else."

    I suspect it's an outward manifestation of a subconcious desire for the Big A to hurry up and finally come already, just so that the emotional and physical burden of being an active JW can be somehow lessened.

  • Terry
    Terry

    I don't think the word morbid is too much of an exaggeration to use as a description of JW mindset.

    They have bet their lives (by wasting their time!) on outcome based on belief.

    The outcome will not come if Armageddon is a pipe dream.

    So, the waiting game is a morbid obessessing over bad news, negative world events and human tragedy in the form

    of death for billions of men, women and children.

    That is sick. There is no other way to look at it. Sick and diseased thinking.

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