The Generation question revisited?

by prologos 6 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • prologos
    prologos

    what is longest single, not overlapping generation in the bible? the record in the bible record: --969 years?* Gen 5:27, so

    if WT writers, speakers like LOesch believe THAT, really,

    what is wrong with them sincerely believing it when say say: "-- gods purpose will be totally fulfilled be the end of the millenium--"

    but there is something wrong if WE believe it.

    or is the Genesis account symbolic? and so is the generation/millenium talk of WT writers?

    * 969, well within the 1000 loesch time table.

  • EndofMysteries
    EndofMysteries

    Jesus was talking about the destruction of the temple of jerusalem, of his pending return, and of his final return. 3 different time periods. The 'this generation will not pass away' was speaking ONLY about the destruction of the temple and jerusalem and it did prove to be true, that generation did personally witness the destruction of jerusalem and those who hadn't fled witnessed it first hand.

  • prologos
    prologos

    EoM very good analising, have wt writers bought into this concept?

    wt has vascillated between all comers to the "anointed" generation then and now.

    surely Jesus who quoted from genesis was aware of the 969, almost 666 with one number upside down generation, with jewish poets keen on aliteration genesis and generation must have neen a shoe - in for the writing to come? so,

    let us get Loesch off the hook and opt for the whole bible scheme:

    i generation=969 years literal or symbolic your pick.

    PS would have been nice to have Jesus live beyound 969 to prove he was really excempt from the "dented bread pan syndrom"

  • OneGenTwoGroups
    OneGenTwoGroups

    This was the only prophecy "given by Jesus" that wasn't too vague to matter, like the rest of his prophecies (see "wars and reports of wars"). But unfortunately, it was an epic failure. He didn't return within that generation as he promised.

    As you see with EOMs post, prophecies mean whatever the hell you want them to mean. And salvaging this failed prophecy has proven quite the problem for Christians.

    The Bible says what is says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say. Too bad... most, if not all, of its adherents, don't believe this inconvenient truth.

  • EndofMysteries
    EndofMysteries

    prologos - No, WT writers haven't bought into that concept. If they ever do, it would likely be after they saw another who had true light who mentioned it.

    onegentwogroups - Jesus didn't promise he was going to return within that generation. He said that generation was going to see the destruction of Jerusalem.

    One interesting thing if you actually carefully examine the gospels, is you can notice that they were scrambled up. For example in the beginning of Matt 24, the disciples ask Jesus When will the temple be destroyed, the sign of his presense and the conclusion of the system of things. Then you have Jesus saying all kinds of things after. However....they asked 3 distinct questions on 3 distinct time periods, yet everybody bundles them together then calls it a failed prophecy?

  • Faithful Witness
    Faithful Witness

    prologos: good point, about the "bread pan syndrome."

  • yadda yadda 2
    yadda yadda 2

    Science is starting to muse that human beings may have the genetic potential to live up to 1,000 years, believe it or not!

    There is a whole new field of scientice researching the now uncoded human genome at an exponential rate where they are on the cusp of learning the genetic and biological causes of death and how to possibly overcome or limit those.

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