I Found Another Group Preaching "Hate Your Enemies" Like Watchtower and Governing Body do!

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  • SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker
    SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker

    How often did you pray for your enemies do you recall during the small group gatherings or large scale International bragging Assemblies of JWs?

    Christendom’s preachers are starting to scare me as a former member of the Watchtower Society I don't trust how they pray for their enemies. I miss the crisp and vitriolic message conveyed to the followers found in vintage Watchtowers magazines like the following passage:

    “Jesus encouraged his followers to love their enemies, but God’s Word also say to "hate what is bad." When a person persists in a way of badness after knowing what is right, when the bad becomes so ingrained that it is an inseparable part of his make-up, then in order to hate what is bad a Christian must hate the person with whom the badness is inseparably linked." Watchtower 1961 Jul 15 p.420”

    http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/disfellowship-shunning.php

    I feel helpless reading the Bible finding the words of Jesus and his Apostles teaching me a false religion I am not ready to accept. Jehovah’s Witnesses are use to judging their brothers and sisters on the basis of how often they are in the Field Service, kissing the elders ass, spouting off "crazy ass" comments deifying the Watchtower’s Governing Body during the weekly Watchtower Study Edition meetings. Why did Jesus say things like this?

    Matthew 5:44-46 -Love for Enemies

    "But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you in order that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. "For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax-gatherers do the same?

    Or tell is Apostle to write this:

    “ 16 Live in harmony with each other. Don’t become snobbish but take a real interest in ordinary people. Don’t become set in your own opinions.

    17 Don’t pay back a bad turn by a bad turn, to anyone. Don’t say “it doesn’t matter what people think”, but see that your public behavior is above criticism.

    18 As far as your responsibility goes, live at peace with everyone.

    19 Never take vengeance into your own hands, my dear friends: stand back and let God punish if he will. For it is written: ‘Vengeance is mine. I will repay’.

    20-21 ... these are God’s words: ‘Therefore if your enemy hungers, feed him; if he thirsts, give him a drink; for in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head’. Don’t allow yourself to be overpowered with evil. Take the offensive—overpower evil by good!

    Romans 12:15-19

    I can't stomach a peaceful religion practing the words of Christ, I need men to follow who will get everyone angry by my actions. The spiritual meat provided must be aged and tasty like these smooth words:

    “"Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God's law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship….”

    Watchtower1952 Nov 15 p.703

    The insane mainstream radio preachers speak of love and forgiveness and not to judge people by their outward appearances or lack of Field Activity or Church attendance, why are they trying to tickle my ears by speaking such blasphemy, the Preacher claimed it came from the Bible:

    “7 But the LORD said to Samuel, "Don't judge by his appearance or height, for I have rejected him. The LORD doesn't make decisions the way you do! People judge by outward appearance, but the LORD looks at a person's thoughts and intentions." Matthew 7:1-3

    What relevance does the Bible have when we are commanded to hate our enemies by the Watchtower’s wise rulers, I need to find a group who preaches a message I can handle, not stuff like the following passage:

    “7 Don’t condemn others, and God won’t condemn you. 2 God will be as hard on you as you are on others! He will treat you exactly as you treat them.

    3 You can see the speck in your friend’s eye, but you don’t notice the log in your own eye.”

    Contemporary English Version (CEV)

    When I was attending the Kingdom Hall, from the smallest Field Service group to the largest International Assembly we never prayed for our enemies or those persecuting us. The words of brother Rutherford condemnation of men trying to break in to his hate filled gathering of his followers was nothing like this:

    32-33 Two others, criminals, were led out to be executed with him at a place called “The Skull.” There all three were crucified—Jesus on the center cross, and the two criminals on either side.

    34 “Father, forgive these people,” Jesus said, “for they don’t know what they are doing.”

    And the soldiers gambled for his clothing, throwing dice for each piece. 35 The crowd watched. And the Jewish leaders laughed and scoffed. “He was so good at helping others,” they said, “let’s see him save himself if he is really God’s Chosen One, the Messiah.”

    Or

    “ 54 The Jewish leaders were stung to fury by Stephen’s accusation and ground their teeth in rage. 55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed steadily upward into heaven and saw the glory of God and Jesus standing at God’s right hand. 56 And he told them, “Look, I see the heavens opened and Jesus the Messiah [ e ] standing beside God, at his right hand!”

    57 Then they mobbed him, putting their hands over their ears, and drowning out his voice with their shouts, 58 and dragged him out of the city to stone him. The official witnesses—the executioners—took off their coats and laid them at the feet of a young man named Paul. [ f ]

    59 And as the murderous stones came hurtling at him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”60 And he fell to his knees, shouting, “Lord, don’t charge them with this sin!” and with that, he died

    Acts 7:54-59 NLT

    The aloof way we treat our neighbors and wordly workers has not produced the following characteristics the Bible promised we would receive by acting more holy than our non-JW fellow human beings? Where did we go wrong, where is the promised blessing and praise God promised us for avoiding anyone we feel is ungodly or unclean?

    “ 3 Commit your work to the Lord, then it will succeed.

    4 The Lord has made everything for his own purposes—even the wicked for punishment.

    5 Pride disgusts the Lord. Take my word for it—proud men shall be punished.

    6 Iniquity is atoned for by mercy and truth; evil is avoided by reverence for God.

    7 When a man is trying to please God, God makes even his worst enemies to be at peace with him.

    8 A little gained honestly is better than great wealth gotten by dishonest means.

    9 We should make plans—counting on God to direct us. Proverbs 8:3-9

    Verses 7 and 8 are not translated correctly in my opinion because we hate our enemies (apostates and rebels against the Faithful Slave) and I don’t feel their love, it feels like they pity us. Trying to interpret verse 8 we tried to dishonestly trick our members by telling them "The United Nations is the Wild Beast" while using dishonest means (Theocratic Warfare) we got egg on our face. What would the Judge do if he was still alive, he could explain loudly how "It was the fault of some stupid and inept Bethelite and that's a fact, you sons of evil! Nobody reads your Satanic Offspring Paper anyways! F.U. Guardian!"

    On the record we Jehovah's Witnesses are allowed to follow our Bible based conscience, off the record we must ask the elders and circuit overseers how to best micromanage our lives up to and including petty things like, what we are allowed to wear when driving to a Convention (Kingdom Ministry 2013). Jehovah's Witnesses need a role model to follow and orders to obey to feel we have found someone connected to God. The imperfect human mind is always asking why Jesus Christ has not come or why God has been vocally silent for two-thousand years, so we look to see if God is speaking through a fringe group gathering attention like John-the-Baptist was long ago. Human nature needs the comfort of thinking somebody has figured out how to live our life in a correct manner. The Watchtower's Governing Body has filled that vacuum by claiming God is speaking to them and he is not happy with all religions who he weighed in the "scales and balances and found them devoid of truth", God has chosen the Watchtower in 1919 or did he? WT 2013, July

    Is it possible I found the reincarnation of Judge Rutherford? You check the quotes and compare them to our dear brothers quotes and cartoons of Christendom and “Greedy Jews” in the old magazine and tracts written by the Judge.

    "God hates fags."

    "Hide your wife, hide your kids, hide your husband, 'cause they're raping everybody around here."

    "We're not angry, we're zealous.”

    You have been lied to all your life,"

    "The last flip off of God was same sex marriage was the flood that destroyed the Earth."

    "If you are a true follower, you lose members of your family."

    "Christ said he was hated. It's a strong sign we are on the right track."

    Fred Phelps and Fred Phelps jr.

  • SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker
    SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker

    So, how often did you hear the speaker of any gathering of Jehovah's Witnesses pray for their enemies and everyone persecuting them? I can't recall any times of such a prayer, only thirty years in the truth am I. Did you hear the Witnesses pray for their enemies and bless those cursing them or is that not a valid question since God told us to hate the Apostates?

  • yadda yadda 2
    yadda yadda 2

    It is a religion of fear. Fear of 'YHWH' slaughtering 99% of mankind, fear of shunning, fear of apostates, fear of this website. Fear underlies everything they do, so why would they pray for their apostate 'enemies'? Their apostate enemies are the devil's spawn (in the same way Galileo was the devil's spawn to the Roman Catholic Church).

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    "But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you in order that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

    Dear righteous Lord have mercy on this wretched man who persecutes us night and day and day and night all because we bare your name so honorably, while he is a very unrighteous fellow who never goes to the temple like me. I know you would like to kill him because he is so bad in not obeying all your rules, I on the other hand beg you Lord don't kill him for his evil but have mercy and just cause him to loose an eye or something.

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