JW's don't get the "indirectas"... (suggestions)

by ILoveTTATT 5 Replies latest jw friends

  • ILoveTTATT
    ILoveTTATT

    So I am trying really hard to get my mom to open up her eyes...

    Here's our conversation:

    Me: "So you liked the film 'The Fifth Estate'"

    Mom: Yeah it was really good!

    Me: Awesome! Hey, I was reading on Wikipedia about Wikileaks, and somehow I got to know that Wikileaks had leaked a Scientologist "course" online... Do you know what Scientologists are, mom?

    Mom: No... are they related to science?

    Me: Um... No... They are a fake religion... they are what some people call "High Control Groups" or "Cults"... I mean, how can people not see that these people are freaking INSANE? But no, they truly believe in all the garbage of that group. For example, you pay for courses, where supposedly after the course you reach a certain level of feeling good. But not completely good. That's why you get to the higher levels... but you have to pay. What Wikileaks did was leak out one of the last "Courses" where you learn the "ultimate truth" about them.

    Mom: What is that?

    Me: Some really craaaaaazy stuff. That there was an alien named Xenu who came to the Earth and destroyed lots of people with Hydrogen bombs, it's really messed up. But people believe this stuff like it was real! You know how they manage this?

    Mom: How?

    Me: They take people's families away from them. They do a form of "disfellowshipping" but THEY have to shun THEIR families. Once you are in there, if you want to come out, they can physically harm ex-members. So it's really hard to leave!

    Mom (uneasy, ready for thought-stopping argument in 3, 2, 1...) Yeah, but that's Satan's religions. It's amazing how all these false religions are all about the money... and what you said sounds like something from Satan.

    Me (thinking to myself): DOUBLE FACEPALM

    Me: Yeah... oh well... we're home... So, what were you planning on making for dinner? .....

    So yeah... same/similar features of JW's in OTHER religions: Satan.

    JW's can do no wrong... in my mom's mind.

    So yeah... the JW's don't get "indirect arguments"...

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    SOME JW's don't get indirect arguments. Or at least they would not admit it out loud.

  • suavojr
    suavojr

    Some don't get indirect or direct, dammit! I am slowy getting ready emotionally to detach myself if my family shuns me.

  • ILoveTTATT
    ILoveTTATT

    Yeah but REAAALLY try the fade, and when you're doing it, try to win them over. It is not IMPOSSIBLE, it is just SLOW...

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    I've found some success with what I call irreverence, for lack of a better term.

    I bring up some weird teaching and then extend its extremeness just a little, so they will correct me.

    This also works with teachings that were never retracted, or teachings few know about (i.e., talking about 'no sex/marriage in the New System' with singles). This is a stronger position because YOU can be the one arguing FOR the borg and they must choose between silence, agreeing with the distasteful teaching, or disagreeing.

    They leave with slight unease.

  • ILoveTTATT
    ILoveTTATT

    rebel8, GENIUS!!

    Thanks!

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