The Rise of Japanese Nationalism and Korea

by fulltimestudent 7 Replies latest social current

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    Who is responsible? That's a rhetorical question, for the moment. I believe we should focus on the fact that at 'street level,' which is where I guess we can see this video originating, there is support for seeing Japan as the 'civiliser' of East Asia. But the process by which Japanese nationalism is being encouraged should be studied to understand what has happened in Japan in the last 70 years

    What's the background to the song? It seems to be totally directed at Korea (likely the south) and stating that Japan made them civilised and modern. In 1910 Japan 'took over' Korea, and attempted its incorporation into the Japanese state. I think it's fair to say that they may have succeeded, except Japan allied itself to German Nationalism and then thought they may have had a chance to short-cut their ambitions by WW2.

    So listen to the song - the background piks may not mean much to most westerners, but they have enormous significance to Koreans. And the title, 'Annexation song,' may make the blood of most Koreans boil.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUelX8kBThk#t=225

  • LoisLane looking for Superman
    LoisLane looking for Superman

    Hi FullTime ... Yoko has a way with words.

    The photos in the background, buildings and such, are of Korea?

    I have a small collection of turn of the century post cards and photos of Japan, whose pictures of streets and buildings, look the same.

    But then, that is what Yoko was singing about. What Japan did for Korea in the past 100 years but there is a lot of animosity.

    In Seoul, Korea I met a tall, handsome brother. His name was Hong Ki Bong. He taught English. He was born during WWll. He was 1/2 Korean and 1/2 Japanese. He did not tell me of his Japanese father. There was a long pause. Speech was not needed.

    There was a demonstration at the Branch by little tiny, elderly Korean sisters, who had been imprisoned and tortured by their jailers. They showed us how they had been treated. It was not nice, not pretty. I took those images, in my mind, to the next country, Japan. It took me a couple of days being around smiling, happy Japanese JW's to erode my prejudice against them. My prejudice had been misdirected. When a country does something for or against another country, it does not make all people good and others bad.

    LoisLane

  • anonymouz
    anonymouz

    Those "responsible" would be those who would benefit from crippling and delaying Asian economic development which in time equates to world power development because nationalism always leads to violence directed against "those responsible", who actually create the development by engineered dissent that crystallizes into defiance and internal division, not actually any real unity.

    Thus like Nazi Germany, the system in time becomes divided and self defeating, while appearing unified and beneficial. The goal is not to destroy Asia, well not too much, but to delay their development and perceived efforts to resist the Anglo-American internationalist (not nationalist) based world government to go into overt development in the next decade.

    In this way, upon a divided Asia, in a situation where Asia cannot have national or alliance prosperity internally and fight an anti globalist empire at the same time, Asia will be drawn into a limited world war of unique design along with Russia (and others), in hot, warm or cold context, in monetary and military arenas in time. At some point in the process, aided by engineered tribulation in various forms, Russia and Asian soon to be fully financially compromised national power systems, will have to not only join a UN based world government extension, they will voluntarily surrender all national "power and authority" to the Anglo internationalist based world government. (Dan11:42-43 aids Rev17:11-17 culminations over the next decade).

    Any religious, ideological or national ripples that start to form, are first to affect the national sand castle it appears to originate from, but actually comes from external shores to begin weakening, not strengthening, the target. By these various points of turbulence sold to the national people as unity, freedom, etc, we can know who the targets of the next ten years will be by this initial tenderization. (and it is all nations as national autonomous sovereigns) It is obvious the Asian economic trajectory needs to be flattened out a bit to smooth out the overall process and transition to international authority as world government actuality. But even the Anglo-American national systems have been targeted by international Anglo-American super-corporate and finance interests, and must be the actual catalyst of the initial engineered plunges that will underpin Asia's coming economic "normalization" to assist the transformation to world governmental power as an actual government infrastructure utilizing former national power systems to effect the objective of that world government.

    Globalizing a financial and monetary system designed by these internationalists already, upon the enormous national debt and liability falters globally, will greatly aid the transition process of ultimate control of these nations' national economies first (Dan11:42-43), to facilitate the rest of the transformation process later (Rev17:11-17; Rev16:13-16) and that is a ten year initial process aided by a continuation of the world war "global war on terror" in some form, to be eventaully resolved by design, as world "peace and security" (1Thess5:1-3) to aid the positive and hopeful effect of a "freedom from care" (Dan8:25 parallel Dan11:44-45) to fully present an initially fully functioning world government with a UN international forum "conference room" as part of the overall "scarlet wildbeast" internationalized actual ruling governmental system at global scale.

    What is to start soon is just the beginning, and it will result not in "the end of the world" (though there will be a global tribulation, it is temporary), but in a world recovery to again aid the world government process, but now to fourth rendition completion, by resolving a world war and tribulation (Matt24:29), like the three world wars including the cold war before it, to present 8th Kingdom world sovereignty and statements of world rulership as world "peace" and security. Everyone nationally will have fallen into line to kiss the 8th King's internationalized feet, including Russia and all of Asia.

    (any dissent is being handled in the "attack" mode of Dan11:44 parallel Dan8:25, "DURING a freedom from care" as one-sided, uni-polar final 8th King world government and world military stabilizing operations projected for probably another 10 years by that time of final touches and burning off any loose ends performed by world sovereignty power, not national required subservience to it.)

    [By the way, Bethel's finances and corporate network will be going down (Dan8:13) "absorbed" in the context of Daniel 11:42-43 financial globalization process beginning in earnest soon.]

    Every world war development since 1914, has resulted in a UN related presentation in 1919, 1945 and 1990 (Dan11:29-31). This final world cycle will also result in a final presentation as UN centered, multi-nationally based world government but in complete form in this fourth cycle. And that cycle takes several years to finalize.

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    The photos in the background, buildings and such, are of Korea?

    I have a small collection of turn of the century post cards and photos of Japan, whose pictures of streets and buildings, look the same.

    But then, that is what Yoko was singing about. What Japan did for Korea.

    Hi Lois,

    the piks are (as far as I could judge) all of Korea - before and during the Japanese occupation, which only ended in 1945.***

    In both north and south Korea there is a legacy of hate for the Japanese, that exceeds that of the Chinese, who admittedly suffered more than Koreans from Japanese terror.

    The song makes the point that the Japanese modernised Korea ( and, attempts to persuade the Koreans to that viewpoint) - hence the similarities of street/building scenes that you have noted.

    The singer claims support in Korea for Japanese intervention. That's certainly true- a section of the Korean elite did see Japanese influence as a solution to Korean troubles before 1910, but another section of the elite saw Russian influence as the solution. The Americans also had a go at trying to build support. And, some still saw the Chinese as the solution.

    *** the Japanese occupation of Korea ended with the Japanese surrender in 1945. Russia (acting on pressure from Roosevelt and Churchill) invaded Manchuria (which had also been occupied by Japan and turned into a client state) and with tremendous force swept across an area the size of Europe and into the northern part of Korea in only 10 days, and more importantly they occupied the Japanese section of Sakhalin (which had been ceded to Japan in 1905) and were poised to invade Hokkaido. In my view, that was the primary reason for the Japanese surrender. The Japanese elite, faced with surrendering to either the Americans or the Russians, chose the Americans as being more likely to be easier to manipulate. (Did they think the Americans were naive?)

    The difficult thing to understand is why the Russians agreed to a divided Korea. They had occupied the northern half of Korea, while the Americans were entering Japan and setting up their control. An urgent assessment of the situation by the American HQ in Japan, led to an offer being made to the Russians for a shared occupation of Korea, pending the establishment of a Korean government. Its absolutely amazing that the Russians agreed. Within a few days they could have driven south and been in Pusan, what a different situation there would now be in East Asia if that had happened.

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    By coincidence, the British Independent ran this story of the era when Japan stole Korea's independence:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/how-my-grandfathers-brave-and-lonely-stand-for-justice-cost-him-his-career-8919100.html

  • prologos
    prologos

    fulltime scolar, "it is difficult why the Russians accepted a divided Korea"?

    here is just my un-educated speculation, from being there:

    In Europe, the Americans, western allies had taken way more territory than was allocated to them in the secret deals in YALTA/POTZDAM, for the division of post war Europe. The reason being that the german armed forces were eager to surrender to the west, but fought bitter, to- the- death battles against the Soviets. The Americans could have rolled almost unopposed through Berlin.

    It is likely that the Amercans played that trump card of secured territory to have a portion of Korea reserved for their occupation.

    The german population was shocked when the allies, Canadian, British, American Troops retreated in the Autumn of 1945 from their forward positions to let in Russian occupiers to take large swath of land, that then became East Germany behind the WALL and Iron Curtain.

    Lucky for the world that there was not fought in Europe a conflict over the divided country like in Korea and Vietnam, Russia would have been tempted to use the Mc Arthur method to defend its borders that were so near.

    MADD was the SECULAR fulfillment of Re. 11:18b.

    Posession is 90 % of right.

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    prologos:

    Your thoughts, of a sort of trade-off, would make some sense. Now that the former Soviet archives are open to western scholars, maybe someone will find some evidence for that.

    From the American side, there doesn't seem to have been much forethought at all. Roosevelt is on record as saying that Korea may need "guidance" for maybe 50 years. I guess he may have had something like the mandate system, under which the British occupied Iraq after WW1. (And that didn't work very well in Iraq).

    Actually, the Koreans were rather well organised (not sure by who). Almost immediately (after the Japanese surrender) 'Village committees' sprang up all over Korea to administer villages and towns.

    The Russians permitted them, and I guess Kim Il-sung did also, but I'm unsure as to whether they still exist. In the south, the American Military government banned them.

    Interesting, isnt it?

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    It's being said the video in my first post was organised by these people:

    Zaitokukai

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Zaitokukai demonstrating against theright of non-citizens to vote in Shinjuku on January 24, 2010

    Zainichi Tokken o Yurusanai Shimin no Kai ( 在日特権を許さない市民の会 ? , meaning Citizens against Special Privilege of Zainichi, shortened to Zaitokukai), is a Japanese ultra-right group. They aim to eliminate some privileges awarded to foreigners who have been granted Special Foreign Resident status. Most such foreigners are Zainichi Koreans and hold South Korean or North Koreancitizenship. [1] According to its official website, its membership is over 11000.

    It is led by Makoto Sakurai. Although they are an extremist group, they generally engage in non-violent protests. [2]

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    Generally, right-wing Japanese groups, believe that Japan was robbed of victory in WW2. Hmmmm?

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