Early whale ancestors had hooves?

by hamsterbait 8 Replies latest jw friends

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    I have been online looking for actual IMAGES of the hoofed toes of early whales.

    There is no lack of articles that say "such and such" had hooves on their toes, like their land dwelling ancestors.

    I want IMAGES pictures of the relevant fossils.

    All these references to hooves alone is like the self referencing of the WT with no actual tangible proof.

    I am sick to death of looking at drawings that dont really prove anything...

  • cofty
    cofty

    The evidence for the ancestry of whales is in it's genes.

    Just as you can send a blood sample to a lab to prove paternity the same techniques are used to show relationships between species.

    Whales used to be poorly represented by fossils but that all changed when the geography of their evolution was discovered in Pakistan. There are now an embarassment of riches of fossils showing the transition from land mammal to whale.

    Use Google Images to look for Pakicetus, or ambulocetus fossils for examples.

    Another interesting feature of whales is the tiny little pelvis that can still be found in living specimens, completely detatched from the rest of the skeleton.

  • cofty
  • J. Hofer
    J. Hofer

    gingerich: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gingeric/PDGwhales/Whales.htm

    and yeah, you could trace ancestors also without having the toes.

  • zound
    zound

    Also the way whales and dolphins swim (they flex their spines up and down) as opposed to the way fish swim (flex spines side to side) Watch a video of whales swimming and you'll see what I mean.

    Indicates they used to be land dwelling creatures.

  • Island Man
    Island Man

    Also the way whales and dolphins swim (they flex their spines up and down) as opposed to the way fish swim (flex spines side to side) Watch a video of whales swimming and you'll see what I mean.

    Indicates they used to be land dwelling creatures.

    Not to mention the fact that these supposedly fully marine creatures still breathe air. That should be a big clue right there that they had a non-marine, fully terrestrial past.

  • OneGenTwoGroups
    OneGenTwoGroups

    Thanks for the links everyone. I had heard about this part of the evolutionary chain, but hadn't researched it. This is really amazing. Going from land back to sea is really is a mind trip when you think about it.

    The abundance of food in the oceans, especially before modern fishing, must have played the biggest role in why these animals kept getting better adapted at living in the water.

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    If you want a good laugh, read "An EArly Whale Fantasy from National Geographic"

    They dont understand how a mutaion works, they dont know the proper biological definition of evolution, they dont know what "vestigial" (as in vestigial organ really means, and they are soo thick they cannot draw any conclusions or inferences from what they have rubbed their nose in.

    HB

  • Comatose
    Comatose

    For craps same, they produce milk and nurse their young. They are mammals. It's kind of obvious they would be like any other land mammal when you think about it.

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