RANDOM THOUGHTS . . .

by Terry 6 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Terry
    Terry

    Random thought #1:

    In primitive times humans got their ideas from observing cause and effect.

    If somebody got injured with great loss of blood they would die. Even the dullest thinker would associate blood with life itself.

    Random thought #2

    When you watch somebody at their deathbed event the cessation of breathing is the signal of death itself.

    A primitive observer would connect the exhalation (death-rattle) with the going-out-of-life.

    We get the word reSPIRation (breathing) and the word SPIRit connected to the thought of an intangible soul.

    In other words, something (spirit, soul, breath) leaving the body and going off and away at the point of death ORIGINATED belief in the soul.

    A BIG DEAL is attached to a simple thing in and of itself no big deal.

    Random thought #3

    A lot of bogus ideas come from mixing things together which do not belong together. The fallacy of post hoc, ergo, propter hoc occurs. (Because something happened before an event therefore it must have caused the event) leads to spurious conclusions. Have you ever known somebody with a so-called "lucky" shirt they wear bowling because the last time they wore it their league won the tournament?

    Random thought #4

    Whenever people face something they can't explain, a strange thing happens to their thinking process. Without proper training and discipline of thought, it is very easy to attach a "likely" cause. Mind you, they are acting out of ignorance while AT THE SAME TIME using ignorance as though it were a tool for solving problems! Why is it so painful to put NOT KNOWING on hold until more data, facts and proofs are available rather than rushing to fill the void with a totally nonsense cause? Isn't it likely we are going to fall in love with our bogus answer since we are using our own standards for selecting it in the first place?

    Random thought #5

    Once a wrong idea (which sounds like a really good idea) gets passed around and a group of people accept it and repeat it--changing people's minds about it is one of the hardest things in the world to accomplish!

    The "meme" word was first introduced by evolutionary biologist, Richard Dawkins, in 1976. "Meme" comes from the Greek word "mimema" (meaning "something imitated", American Heritage Dictionary). Dawkins described memes as a being a form of cultural propogation, a way for people to transmit social memories and cultural ideas to each other. Not unlike the way that DNA and life will spread from location to location, a meme idea will also travel from mind to mind.

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    Random thought #6 (about all the above random thoughts. . .)

    I ask myself: WHAT IS THE STARTING POINT? Before an idea gets passed around and accepted, what was the earliest instance of it?

    Most often, that first instance might have seemed to be a no-brainer.

    What if it were actually a NO-brainer?

    No brain operating skeptically would-jump to a conclusion without testing and research.

    And yet--so much of what we accept as totally true and believable is purified garbage.

    Why believe in a spirit or soul as a mystical intangible other than the air we breathe?

    Is it because almost every religion back into primitive times has passed that idea forward without proof as though a TRUE fact?

    Why believe blood is the mystical soul or animated life in any real sense?

    Why build a doctrine of prohibition around such an untestable premise?

    Isn't it because we've already accepted yet another untestable premise: HOLY, GOD, SCRIPTURE. . . ?

    The more untestable things you've ALREADY ACCEPTED the easier it is to compound ignorance and wrong guesses as FACT!

    If somebody volunteered to donate blood (without dying in the process) so that another person could use it---no actual death is involved.

    That would be a practical way of looking at it.

    But, once you attach a religious or mystical (unprovable) connotation---well, it is beyond reasoning or good sense!

    Aren't most of our human problems simply due to unclear conclusions derrived from hasty guesses and urban myths, untested beliefs and faulty

    cause and effect hypothesis?

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  • gorgia2
    gorgia2

    Terry,

    I like your random thoughts.

    gorgia

  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    Great random thoughts.

    Correlation does not prove causation!

  • Terry
    Terry

    I bet if EACH of us sat down and made a list of all the things we heard people say they believe we'd be astonished how many of them

    are unprovable, untestable and totally taken on faith that the person who told us knew what they were talking about.

    My family, for instance, had so many wacky things they believed true which were silly and nonsensical!

    It took me years to shed them from the "automatic" response mechanism in my brain.

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  • Terry
  • Cold Steel
    Cold Steel

    We get the word reSPIRation (breathing) and the word SPIRit connected to the thought of an intangible soul. In other words, something (spirit, soul, breath) leaving the body and going off and away at the point of death ORIGINATED belief in the soul.

    The Hebrew and Greek words for "spirit" and "breath" are the same, but causitive relationships can be difficult to prove. If one believes in a revealed religion, the concept of death would have been understood from the beginning. But even as a child, I saw the corpses of humans, birds and animals, and it was clear that there was something missing. It was there when it was alive, and gone when it was dead. Bodies, to me, have never looked real. The animating force within them wasn't just the air they breathed in and exhaled; it was something more. And despite what the Jehovah's Witnesses teach, the concept of a human spirit was far more than a Greek fable. When King Saul couldn't get a revelation regarding what turned out to be his last battle, he turned to a witch who conjured up what he believed was Samuel's spirit. The scripture doesn't say the vision was or wasn't Samuel, but that's not the point. The point is that this Israelite king believed that Samuel had a spirit which could be consulted.

    It's equally as clear that the first century Christians believed not only that man has a spirit that survives death, but that the spirit comes from God and had a prior existence. Talk about causitive effects! If God was just and equitable, why wouldn't all people be born equal? Why are some smarter than others? Why do some excel in mathematics, while others are gifted in other areas? Why the difference in intelligence? Why are some people born bad? Some children born into good homes are just bad from the beginning, torturing small animals and even killing adults, while others are born just the opposite? Even if there is no God, even animals seem to understand death. Why not man?

    There's also the difference between good and evil. It has nothing to do with survival, yet man seems to have a fairly good understanding of which is which. If anything denotes there is a God, it's this ingrained concept of good and evil, of beauty in music and art, and nobility. Even though many of us don't live up to the high standards we recognize, we seem to admire the people who have the traits of honesty, integrity, virtue, nobility and godliness.

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  • Terry
    Terry

    If God was just and equitable, why wouldn't all people be born equal? Why are some smarter than others? Why do some excel in mathematics, while others are gifted in other areas? Why the difference in intelligence? Why are some people born bad? Some children born into good homes are just bad from the beginning, torturing small animals and even killing adults, while others are born just the opposite? Even if there is no God, even animals seem to understand death. Why not man?

    A thoughtful post!

    I've given up on holding "god ideas" in my head because of my very human tendency to want to "understand."

    I don't think God is even remotely understandable in a meaningful way. Whether or not a god-something prevails or is merely illusory--its all

    the same to me.

    One thing which strongly asserts itself in my consciousness: if God were to want humans to confront the supernatural with a sense of reality--a much better job could be done!

    All those interventions in human history are conveniently in the distant past--aren't they? Yeah.

    Too bad we don't have a voice from the sky today. That might really clear things up a bit.

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