A Little Depressed? This may be a GOOD thing!

by patio34 9 Replies latest watchtower medical

  • patio34
    patio34

    Hi all, just ran across this in this morning's news:

    Study: Depressed Women Live Longer

    By WILLIAM L. HOLMES
    Associated Press Writer

    RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Mildly depressed older women tend to live longer than those who are not depressed at all, a surprising new study suggests.

    The findings are contrary to most other studies on the link between depression and mortality. Those studies have generally shown that depression increases the likelihood of death within a certain time period.

    ``This is totally counterintuitive to what you expect to see,'' said Dan G. Blazer, a Duke University professor of psychiatry and behavioral science. ``We know that depression in younger populations is very clearly associated with mortality. It's not so clear in older populations.''

    The results might support the theory that mild depression is a survival mechanism, he said.

    The Duke study, to be published in the May-June issue of the American Journal of Geriatric Psychiatry, is the first known examination of mild depression and death, Blazer said. Other studies looked only at people with severe depression.

    The Duke study was based on a group that started with 2,401 women and 1,269 men, all older than 65. They were interviewed about their health at roughly three-year intervals from 1986 to 1997 and were separated into three categories — depressed, mildly depressed and not depressed — based on their answers to a 20-question test.

    Blazer said 10.5 per cent of the women were considered mildly depressed.

    The women with mild depression were, on average, 60 percent less likely than other women to die during any three-year period, Blazer said. Researchers took into account age, chronic illness and other factors in calculating the mortality rate.

    The researchers found that depression had no influence on the mortality of men.

    ``We don't want to make too much out of this except that it's a very interesting finding,'' Blazer said.

    Blazer said the study may support a theory advanced by University of Michigan psychiatrist Randolph M. Nesse that says mild depression may allow people to cope more easily with their problems and remove themselves from dangerous or harmful situations.

    According to Nesse humans may need ``low mood'' or mild depression to deal with failure and disappointment. ``People who don't have it waste their whole lives trying to do things they won't ever do,'' he said.

    A psychiatrist not involved in Blazer's work, Dr. Richard Schulz of the University of Pittsburgh, questioned the findings, noting that previous research has shown that both mild depression and severe depression lead to increased mortality.
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    I think this is good news because it takes the pressure off people to be happy, cheery, optimistic all the time. Some theories have suggested that if you aren't continually in these states, your life may be shortened. Especially do some like to tell people with grave diseases that they must "have a good attitude." To me, this is a grave disservice and hurtful to the suffering person.

    Well, cheers to all, and if you're feeling mildly depressed, don't worry about it!!

    Patio

  • teenyuck
    teenyuck

    I read this also...with a sinking feeling.

    This means that my "miserable-life dealt me a bad hand" mother-in-law will live for years!

  • Naeblis
    Naeblis

    Depressed women everywhere are thinking, "Great, another 40 years on this miserable planet :( Can't I EVER catch a break??"

    :)

  • butalbee
    butalbee

    If depressed women live longer, than I will out life every friggin body. Great. That's something to look forward to..

  • patio34
    patio34

    LOL Puffs! Note that the article said "mildly" depressed, so maybe MIL won't last toooo long.

    Naeblis, see above about "mildly" depressed.

    You too butalbee!

    Ah, well, my work here is done . . .

    Pat

  • Introspection
    Introspection
    I think this is good news because it takes the pressure off people to be happy, cheery, optimistic all the time.

    This is a good point, who says you have to be freakishly happy all the time anyways? But by the same token, it does no good if you identify with depression as if that's all that you are. If you are depressed, then the truthful thing to do is to fully accept that you are depressed, not to go into denial and put on a smile even though you don't feel like it. Rather than allow ourselves to experience whatever life experience we may happen to have, we cling to these ideas of what we're supposed to be like, how we're supposed to feel. It seems to me it's quite clear that THIS is what causes mental illness, rather than any natural feeling we may happen to experience in response to things. Those feelings are just what people go through in life.

    "I am Jack's broken heart." -Fight Club

    "I don't think you're happy enough. That's right!
    I'll teach you to be happy
    I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs!" -Ren & Stimpy, the Happy Happy, Joy Joy song

  • Introspection
    Introspection

    Oh yeah, I should note too that if you have the attitude of acceptance often it wouldn't qualify as depression anyway, one might just call it the blues. But also if you don't have this schizo attitude like you HAVE to be so happy all the time, you might just find that you are less depressed because of that. Because other than life span, there is also the matter of quality of life.

  • patio34
    patio34

    Hi Introspection,

    You certainly seem to be aptly named! Quality of life is important. I tended to interpret the article as the "mild depression" being a transient thing, as you said, "the blues."

    I guess why this seemed important to me is that some time back, i had cancer and felt an enormous burden to "have a positive attitude." So, in addition to coping with the disease, i had to fight feeling bad about NOT having a "positive attitude." I felt like slapping someone who told me that. That WOULD have cheered me up!

    Pat

  • waiting
    waiting

    Yo Pat! Hi there!

    Interesting study, of course, there'll probably be another interesting study showing the opposite next year. Such is the life - or is that just a depressing statement I just made?

    My mil's 81, mad at me......and now you tell me she'll live even longer. I'm going with Puff on this one - this article just made us more depressed - and we're not even THAT old yet. I think it's the mil thought.

    Anyway! Yeah, I get tired of those forever cheery people to. Just want to tell them to fuck off sometimes, eh?

    your loving sis, waiting

  • patio34
    patio34

    Hi Waiting!!

    I read your post with the usual amount of interest and then almost spit out my soup when i came to the end! LOL! [img]

    Love ya! Pat (your lovin' older sister)

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