How many inactive/DF JWs do You think know TTATT?

by BU2B 9 Replies latest jw friends

  • BU2B
    BU2B

    This is something that I often wonder about. So many have faded away for various reasons, or get DF and stop attending meetings and go on with their lives. I wonder how many of them have researched that the Org may not be the truth, and how many go on believing it, but just mve on with their lives because they feel they are inadequate, cant live up to the standards, etc and feel they will be destroyed in armadeddon. They physically free themselves but mentally are slaves.

    I feel There are 5 types of JW/ex JW.

    1. Mentally sleeping/slaves and physically still in.

    2. Mentally sleeping/slaves and have stopped JW activities

    3. Mentally free but physically still in due to family etc.. The concious class/stealth mode.

    4. Mentally free and phsically free.

    5. Just starting to wake up, think for themselves (somewhere in between)

    and maybe a 6th- Just going along to get along, not believing or non believing, just letting momentum carry them through the motions.

    How many non attending inactive/ DF do you think are awake?

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    A very high percentage of inactive/non-attending/and especially DF are far from awake. That is my personal experience. It surprised me too !

    But many that left did so for reasons that had nothing to do with doctrine, or the WT's history etc etc , all the things that actually wake people up.

    And sadly, since leaving they have not felt the need, or been too lazy, to find out more.

    This leaves them in a sad kind of "Limbo", they feel they are a failure, they still fear fictions like Armageddon, and frankly have not put the WT where it belongs, in the Dustbin of Life.

    I think your No. 3 category is growing apace though, but they need to find the courage and integrity to leave, they will not help their family by staying.

    No 5 is probably growing too, anybody who swallows down the latest BullCrap must be a looney ! and therefore in Category 1.

  • Londo111
    Londo111

    I think most fall in categories 1-2.

  • ABibleStudent
    ABibleStudent

    Maybe less than 50% of ex-JWs know TTATT. The WTBTS's BITE control is very powerful and is the gift that keeps on giving to the WTBTS. I know a former pioneer, who left about 20 years ago and does not believe that the Bible is the word of God. He still believes that the WTBTS has the most correct interpretations of the Bible. Also, there are many JW apologists that comment on negative WTBTS comments. Some of those JW apologists left the WTBTS years ago and no longer believe in God.

    IMHO it is a tragedy that ex-JWs are still victimized by WTBTS's BITE control.

    Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

    Robert

  • BU2B
    BU2B

    I agree with the above comments.. I think you guys are right as evidenced by the breif surge in attendence following 9/11. People you havent seen in years all the sudden turned up, thus proving that they have been sleeping all along, although physically free. It is so ironic that these people will fornicate, get drunk, use drugs, watch and or make porn, play the most violent video games and not go to a meeting for 5 or more years, yet still are just as much slaves as the pioneer/elder uber JW. They will argue with anyone who tries to free them from their mental prison. They must be thinking "Eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we will die" Some have made the calculated decision that although they believe the WT is right, they dont want to live by it and therefore do what they want without ever waking up.

    Also, when ever they have illegitimate children, get cancer from their smoking, STDs etc. they just view it as proof thet they should have listened to the WT and if how they had just stayed "in the truth" everything would have been OK

  • nonjwspouse
    nonjwspouse

    My husband was number 2 for nearly 30 years until three years ago. Then he was returning both physically and mentally for a while. Now, he might just be forming into a just beginning to, possibly, maybe, waking up, but currently is afraid to so he is ignoring. No more returns to meetins or studies for now about a year.

    There is still hope for him yet.

  • problemaddict
    problemaddict

    Its 1,2, and 6 I think in my opinion.

    I hear from people all of the time that I am close with, that they don't agree with everything but "where else shall we go to". Its the dominant brand of thinking. NOBODY agrees with the GB on everything or even 90%. Many question dogma and history on several levels. But they abate those thoughts and feelings as they (and we at one time) had all been trained to using the simple explanation that the apostles too made mistakes, they are the clsest and do not claim infallibility (like the pope monster), and none of Jehovahs appointed other that Jesus have ever been perfect.

    It always amazes me that if you are in JW leadership, not being PERFECT, is tantamount to getting a pass for being WRONG. Yet this is never extened to others.

    Its really quite brilliant.

  • Crazyguy
    Crazyguy

    I talked with a former born in about some TTATT and it feaked him out or made him unconfortable talking to me. He said hes not in because he smokes but must still believe and be brainwashed since he will not talk to me now.

  • joyfulfader
    joyfulfader

    My siblings faded long before me and have lived as typical "worldly" people. Their fades were not precipitatated by traumatic events to open their eyes to the insane hypocrisy and lies like mine was. I can't say anything at all anti JW to the one (she runs to my dad who is never going to leave) and the other still thinks it is The Truth but would take a blood transfusion. Both haven't had anything to do with the org for many years and celebrate holidays but are still of the basic cult mind. Was a sad revelation to me. Continues to be so. In fact all df'd persons I have had contact with are still mentally in and speak of going back at some point. Most inactives as well. Sad.

  • Gypsy Sam
    Gypsy Sam

    I have found out the hard way that not as many as I hoped know TTATT. Having to tread lightly has been a lesson learned the hard way.

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