Did anyone ever "steal" your Bible St...

by LDH 5 Replies latest jw friends

  • LDH
    LDH

    I'm sure everyone on this board has at least one experience similar. I will share this with you....because every time I think I've told you every thing, another memory come rushing in.

    When I was about 10, my parents went out of town for the weekend. They hired a young black sister to babysit us. (Color is germane to the story....read on.....)

    This sister was beautiful and kind, but her worldly family really was the PITS.

    While my parents were gone, her worldly cousins/brothers drove up our driveway, got out of the car, and proceeded to tell this sister that they had come to "visit."

    There was one young man who used a walker to get around. He kept telling them, "No, don't do this, let's go." They paid no mind, he was very distressed.

    Truth be told, they were out for no good, they came to steal and rob from our house. The sister did not stop them from rummaging through our whole house and stealing things!

    As kids, we were in shock and quite frightened! There were strangers in the house, and we felt very unsafe! Imagine how you would feel watching people go through every room in your house stealing stuff, and all there are, are little kids who don't have the nutz yet to stand up to you. (Of course, that *was* in the dumb days; now kids will call 911 faster than you can blink, LOL)

    Frankly, we were petrified.

    The sister begged them to go, but did not call the police. My sister and I were going to call the police but she begged us not to.

    When my parents got home, she gave them a watered down version of what happened. Come to think of it, she never babysat for us again either. (See my thread entitled "Joanne never liked me, anyway.")

    As my parents were going to call the police, another car pulled up in the driveway, and out came the young man who used the walker. He gave my father back some of the stuff they had taken and apologized, sincerely. He said he had tried to stop them and tell them what they were doing wasn't right, but they did not listen.

    He also told my father he wanted to study the Bible with him, and we got to know a little more of his story.
    "Willy" was the son of someone whose children had more than one.....um.....baby daddy. If I remember correctly, he didn't know who his dad was.

    In high school this young man emerged as a gifted sprinter, running the hundred yard dash in 10 seconds! He was being recruited by many colleges and universities with prestigious track teams.

    One day, two buddies got into a fight. He stepped between them to "break it up." One pulled out a gun and shot him. He was immediately paralyzed from the waist down.

    We met him about 4 years later. His life was going nowhere, all his prospects had gone dark overnight. Now he was stuck and at the mercy of his not-too savory family.

    So anyhow, back to the story, he told my father that he was ready to study the Bible, and our whole family fell in love with this young man.

    He progressed rapidly, and got to be very close to our family.

    About three months before the upcoming assembly, things suddenly changed! A young MS in our cong. who was "reaching out" HARD began to buddy up to "Willy."

    Us kids weren't stupid--we began to tell my father that this MS was trying to "steal his Bible study!!!!" The audacity!!! Sure enough, because "Willy" didn't understand the political intricacies of the JW cong, this MS was able to convince him that because he was a younger man than my father, he was able to understand the lingo and could relate to him better!

    The MS even had "Willy" ask my father if he (my father) minded that he (Willy) had a "supplemental" Bible study with this MS dude. [8>]

    My father and mother clearly saw what was happening, and although us kids were outraged, they kept saying things like "The glory belongs to Jehovah" and "The important part is that he know the truth!" and other bull@*#&.

    The MS was the one reporting the study some three months later when "Willy" got baptised, and quite gloated over the whole situation. A little sanctimonious if you ask me.

    So there you have it. How my parent's "student" got stolen away from them...a mere three months before baptism. After WE were the ones who "found" him, and worked with him for the whole time. As you can well imagine, this was grist for the gossip mill for quite a while!

    By the way, I mentioned that he was black. The MS was a white guy, and his wife (also white) came from the same low income housing projects that "Willy" did. More than one time they could be heard making jokes about the ...people who lived there.

    I guess it's different if you can count one of "them" on your Field Service report, though.

    Ah, the love.

    Lisa

  • lauralisa
    lauralisa

    Hi Lisa,

    A few months ago Thirdson started a thread entitled "Love amongst the "Brothers". I posted the following there, and wanted to repost it here cause it's definitely a case of Bible study theft... it's another sad story with the predictable, typical casualties...

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=21775&site=3

    A. Power Pioneer sister (credentials exemplary in every way) has a very special "gift" for me. It turns out to be a WT/Awake renewal slip; the kind that used to require a personal visit to the recipient to see if they were still "potentially suseptible." It is for a young woman who has shown much interest in the past, but who struggles dearly with serious mental illnesses (bipolar disorder, OCD, sexual abuse recovery issues, etc). The "understanding" was that she was handing this "call" off to me. I was supposed to feel "honored" or something.

    B. I begin to call and visit this young woman, and her interest in spiritual things increases. I understand her struggles and we become friends. I DO NOT make our friendship contingent upon the eventuality of her studying or conditional in any way. If she wanted to discuss the bible or WT materials, we would discuss it to HER heart's content, but I didn't use my sincere concern and friendship for her as a manipulative device (STUDY NOW OR I'm outta here...)

    C. She decides she wants to start a formal study with the Knowledge book. (This is after nine months of my earning her trust and friendship. I genuinely cared about her and would have made time for her even if I couldn't "count" it.... )

    D. Power Pioneer sister (PPS) yanks study from me and flies with it. (I didn't care; those field service numbers always made me want to cringe anyway... still, the absurdity and blatant power plays registered in my mind.)

    E. Study is in a "manic" phase and speeds through her study. Meetings were difficult and triggering for her; I would sit next to her and soothe her with a short explanation or just a reassuring gesture. I kept up my friendship with her, answering any "study" questions that came up if I thought it would help her. CO visits and does not like that we sit in the back and "goof off." No more sitting next to her; she was suddenly only allowed to sit next to PPS. It was also made clear to me that my "intrusions" into the study (huh?) were no longer going to be tolerated.

    F. She gets baptized in a record-breaking few weeks. She was obviously not ready and getting baptized had become an issue relative to her OCD; she had intense anxiety and believed it would be relieved after her baptism. Since the overlords know freakin ZIP about mental illness or human nature or anything else other than raking another one in, they allow this to happen.

    G. She finds herself unable to continue to stay at the assembly after her immersion; her state of mind is too unstable. I wholeheartedly encourage her to have her mom pick her up. She was obviously working herself up into a state which could escalate very quickly - she was going to get worse if she stayed.

    H. She is vilified and criticized for leaving, and I was told something to the effect that I was a bad influence on her spiritually. My own "spirituality" is now in question.

    I. She ends up in the hospital. Being a minor, she needs her mother's signature on a "blood card". Mom won't sign. New sister won't commit to doing whatever it takes to refuse blood on the hospital forms. New sister is NOT in a position to make an informed decision about what to have for lunch, much less an inflammatory conflict-laden issue such as requiring the hospital staff to allow her to die in the event of... whatever.

    J. PPS is so aghast at the flagrant disobedience of Jehovah's LAW here that she proceeds to denegrate this person to anyone who will listen. The fact was that she didn't want any collateral messiness of this whole mishandled fiasco to reflect upon HERSELF. She implies (in the way that only PPS's can get away with) that there is some trouble with "demons" here.

    K. No one, NO ONE, visits this new sister in the hospital (well, except me). She is really floundering now, and is heavily medicated. Her doctors have to chemically intervene with her ability to think because her efforts to articulate the bizarre events that had just transpired in the past couple of weeks are twisting her brain into a KNOT. She wants to kill herself, but cannot figure out if she's condemned by God or not.

    L. She stops going to meetings. People visit her, call her at all times of morning and night, even when asked not to, and it's clear that they are not interested in discussing anything relative to HER needs; personally, I'm jaded enough at this point to conclude they are simply racking up "return visit" numbers on their... whatevers....... and getting their "time" started by intrusively calling her at 8:30 am (that way they get to "count" the 9:00 hall meeting to get pumped for yet another day of assault with paper products on unsuspecting pedestrians and people unfortunate enough to be home)

    M. I still keep in touch with her. She's researched the organization and is glad to be out. They still call her....... after more than l8 months......... They don't call me, though. Maybe I'm demonized?

    Moral of story: Power Pioneer Sister is the mother of all things loving and wonderful, until study subject actually reveals limits and needs AFTER SHE IS BAPTISED. New sister is suddenly toast. Demonized toast, at that.

    Lisa, the story you described is wrenching. I have tremendous admiration for your strength and ability to channel your outrage in ways that are helpful to others.... thank you for the many things you have written that have helped me.

    Happy Monday morning - laura

  • LDH
    LDH

    Laura,

    ((((((((((YOU))))))))))))

    I keep writing these things down because I'm hoping that lurkers will see the sheer lunacy of the WBTS...counting hours and Bible studies, and such!

    It's amazing, every time I chronicle another "incident"--I get an email from someone.....

    This story has the usual ending...much like yours.....

    "Willy" was "strong in the Truth" for about 2-3 years. I guess the delusion of walking again is enough to make anybody believe. Then he started having problems....big problems.... There was a white sister, ex-stripper, who began to show, um.....interest.

    This sister had not been very stable in the past, and some were rightly concerned for "Willy."

    Of course, you'd think that the MS who'd made it such a point to study with him would be the first one there for him. WRONG. It was my parents who were of a reasonable nature with him, trying to at least get him to 'slow down' the courtship to a reasonable pace....

    A few months later, wedding bells are chiming. Do you think the MS and his family were thereto help out or do anything? WRONG My parents again.

    It started off GREAT. They even got a specialized van so he could drive. Then it started going downhill. His fiance, now wife, was most definitely having some emotional/mental problems. It was an ugly marriage.

    "Willy" was disfellowshipped, as was she. (One can only imagine.) He struggled hard to get reinstated. Who do you think was there for him, to give him rides to the meetings, etc? The MS? WRONG

    LAURA like you I wish people could see that it is possible to be a good person without wearing the label of JW. Many who do wear that label are only operating under a pretext of "good" when it suits them.

    (((((((HUGS))))))) to all those who have been hurt by the WT, and by any chance, if you are reading this "Willy" please know that I would love to hear from you.

    Lisa

  • FreeFallin
    FreeFallin

    LDH and Lauralisa,

    Your two accounts are some of the most powerful condemnations I have read about the "society." Please keep them coming. Everyone needs to read them.

    Free

  • LDH
    LDH

    Thank you Free. That was a kind thing to say.

    I only hope you are right, that there is a silent majority out there reading this stuff and having the scales peeled away from their eyes.

    Lisa

    ps bttt for Fred

  • Prisca
    Prisca

    A similar situation happened to my sister and bro-in-law.

    There was a couple living together (defacto), out of town. The wife (J) was interested in the JWs, the husband (P) not really so interested. Anyway, P started working for my bro-in-law. My bro-in-law finally talked him into having a BS. J was already studying with a sister in the congregation.

    P & J had been studying for about six months or so, both making gradual progress. They quietly get married so that J can get baptised.

    The sister J is studying with is a pioneer, and a very aggressive person. The sort that is used to getting her own way. Anyway, she decides that P should be studying with her husband (G), who is also an elder, so the studies are being kept in the family, so to speak.

    Pressure is put upon my bro-in-law to give the study over to G. Neither bro-in-law nor P want to stop studying with each other, because they are good mates.

    Finally pioneer sister gets her own way, because an elder has more clout then a humble publisher. P starts to study with G. P gets baptised not long after.

    G get all the glory for P's progress.

    [8>]

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