July 2014 WT says cremation is okay, such double standards!

by EndofMysteries 9 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • EndofMysteries
    EndofMysteries

    Is cremation proper for Christians?

    The Scriptures do not present any basic objection to the practice of cremation.

    There are Biblical accounts relating that the bodies or bones of dead people were burned. (Josh. 7:25; 2 Chron. 34:4, 5) This may have indicated that those people did not seem to merit a decent burial............Then, whether the body of a deceased person is to be cremated or not is a personal or family decision.

    My comment: So they acknowledge that in the bible burned people are generally bad or it's a bad thing. They don't mention a single thing about the 'origins' of the practice. They also don't mention what other christian religions say about the matter. I wonder why??? Well if you do some research, cremation was a PAGAN practice. Christians including catholics believed in a physical resurrection and the burning of the body was a rejection of the bodily resurrection hope. Cremation was looked upon as being so bad that some buried people would be dug up and then cremated and ashes scattered.

    Now why is it that the bible speaks about it in a negative light and it has pagan origins yet it's a personal choice, yet because birthdays talked about in bad sense and possible pagan origins it's a DFing matter?

  • humbled
    humbled

    Cremation is cheaper than burial. More to leave to Brooklynn?

  • SafeAtHome
    SafeAtHome

    Wow, I never knew this. I Googled the origin of cremation and you are right, it is a pagan practice and some Christian denominations forbid it. It has become quite common lately among Witnesses that I know, including it being the request of my parents who were long time dubs. Very astute, your reasoning, comparing it with birthday celebrations. I will definitely remember that the next time the subject of birthdays comes up.

  • EndofMysteries
    EndofMysteries

    Yup Safeathome, what's funny is even Babylon the Great aka Catholic Church had forbade it all the way through to I think the 1950's or 1960's.

  • kaik
    kaik

    Cremation were common throughout Europe since the Bronze Age and were standard burial practice for majority of the Roman citizens. For that reason you do not find many buried Roman citizens. Cremation became obsolete in the fourth century and ground burials were the norm until 1900's. One of the issue behind the ground burial among pagans was a possibility of the body to be dug up by wild animals, other believed in funeral purification ritual.

  • EndofMysteries
    EndofMysteries

    The citizens of Europe from the bronze age till 4th century were considered pagans though right? So it makes sense when Christianity was legalized and made the religion of the Romans that is why it would have ceased.

    I just find it very intriguing that the WT all along is pointing fingers at other christian faiths doing pagan practices yet one that even Catholics were against they had no problem doing it.

    Cremation was so pagan even Catholics wouldn't do it, yet the WT says, "We are the true religion, we don't do birthdays like the Catholics" etc.

  • prologos
    prologos

    The funeral pyres of the vikings and in India are legend.

    personally, I like to disappear at the TEMPERATURE I arrived.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Only 5 years and they have to repeat it? Can't jws look it up?

    *** g 3/09 pp. 10-11 Should You Object to Cremation? ***

    The Bible’s Viewpoint

    Should You Object to Cremation?

    Some people feel that cremation—that is, the reduction of a corpse to ashes by burning—dishonors the body and the memory of the dead person. ‘It is of profane origin,’ they reason, ‘and thus should be shunned by those who profess to worship God.’ Others believe that cremation is a perfectly acceptable and dignified way of disposing of human remains. How do you feel about this matter?

    IN Bible times it was customary for the dead to be buried. For example, Abraham buried his wife, Sarah, in a cave. Jesus’ body was laid in a tomb that had been carved out of rock. (Genesis 23:9; Matthew 27:60) Does the Bible stipulate that burial is the only acceptable way to dispose of human remains? Does it indicate that God’s ancient servants objected to cremation?

    Indication of Divine Disapproval?

    On the surface, a number of Bible passages may seem to indicate that cremation was the lot of some who died in God’s disfavor. For instance, the Mosaic Law stated that if the daughter of one of Jehovah’s priests should become a prostitute, she was to be “burned in the fire” after being executed. (Leviticus 20:10; 21:9) Likewise, when the disobedience of Achan and his family resulted in Israel’s defeat at Ai, their fellow countrymen pelted them with stones and then “burned them with fire.” (Joshua 7:25) Some scholars have suggested that this was the treatment accorded those who died in disgrace and that cremation deprived evildoers of what was considered a decent burial.

    Further, when King Josiah attempted to cleanse Judah of idolatry, he broke open the burial places of the priests who had sacrificed to Baal and burned their bones upon their altars. (2 Chronicles 34:4, 5) Do such examples indicate that God’s disapproval rests upon those whose remains are cremated? No, as shown by another Bible account.

    When the Philistines defeated King Saul of Israel in battle, they irreverently fastened his dead body, as well as the bodies of his three sons, to the city wall at Beth-shan. However, the Israelite inhabitants of Jabesh-gilead, on hearing of this disrespectful treatment of the bodies, removed them and burned them, after which they buried the bones. (1 Samuel 31:2, 8-13) At first sight this account may seem to confirm the negative connotation of cremation. After all, Saul too was wicked; he fought against David, Jehovah’s anointed, and died in divine disfavor.

    Yet, notice who died alongside Saul. One of his sons, whose body received identical treatment, was Jonathan. He was not a bad person. On the contrary, Jonathan was David’s close friend and ally. Of Jonathan, the Israelites recognized: “It was with God that he worked.” (1 Samuel 14:45) When David learned of the actions of the men of Jabesh-gilead, he praised and thanked them for what they had done: “Blessed may you be of Jehovah, because you exercised this loving-kindness toward your lord, toward Saul.” Evidently, the burning of Saul’s and Jonathan’s corpses did not disturb David.—2 Samuel 2:4-6.

    No Obstacle to Resurrection

    The Bible clearly teaches that Jehovah God will bring back to life many who now sleep in death. (Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10; John 5:28, 29) Prophetically describing the time when the dead will return to life, the Bible book of Revelation, or Apocalypse, says: “The sea gave up those dead in it, and death and Hades gave up those dead in them.” (Revelation 20:13) To accomplish this, it makes no difference to Almighty God whether a person’s body is buried, burned, lost at sea, eaten by wild animals, or even vaporized by an atomic explosion.

    The Bible gives no specific direction concerning what ought to be done with the bodies of the dead. Cremation is not condemned by Jehovah. Clearly, though, funeral arrangements should be dignified and respectful.

    Something that might influence a person’s decisions in making these arrangements, however, is the way that the local community views funeral customs. Those who abide by Bible principles would certainly not want to do anything that would cause unnecessary offense to their neighbors. It would also be inappropriate to engage in a practice that might seem to indicate belief in false religious teachings, such as the immortality of the soul. These concerns aside, whatever decision a person might make as to how his own body, or that of another, is to be disposed of is really a personal or family matter.

  • krejames
    krejames

    good thread!

  • AlphaMan
    AlphaMan

    The Jehovah Witness religion has become so hypocritical that it is nothing but a modern day equivilent of the Pharisee religion. Just so many exact rules, procedure & protocol in place to serve the Organization lead by the Governing Body Octopope. They always pick & choose what things that clearly have a pagan origin that they will allow a JW to do.

    The JW's did use to be against cremation, but now it is okay. The JW's use to celebrate Christmas & Birthday's but now they don't. Windchimes and toasting are bad because of pagan origins, but the necktie has a pagan military origin but is okay. Just try being a super strict JW against neckties because of it's pagan origin and see how long it is before they run you out of the Kingdom Hall.

    This religion is nothing but a joke. I have lost any little remaining respect for it.

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