Question for those who no longer believe the bible is from GOD

by confusedandalone 7 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  confusedandalone

  Do you ever get to the point that you almost can not handle the sight of a thread where someone is trying to justify bible gods deplorable actions? I must admit I have actually gotten angry over this and it makes me feel awful at times. For instance someone who acknowledges spending hours studying the bible and cross referencing etc... and they still find a way to acknowledge that the supreme god has somehow asked for this to be written and recorded.

  Then those that say well I don't believe the entire bible just the parts that sound nice and that I am not ashamed to attribute to the guy I want to cuddle me at night. I love alot of the topics here... I really really do, but I almost feel like there are times that I am getting angry for no reason ROFL. It also spills over at times into my day to day life. Living in Florida people constantly find ways to covertly preach to you or try to forcer you into the religious camp for the most trivial of things.

  I will admit for the years I was in Watchtower I had alot of issues with the bible and I did voice them but figured hey maybe I just don't understand. I never went to a library or did any research but the second I did I began to realize that things were wrong and I can't live my life chasing after fairy tales.

  Has anyone else gone through this?
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  Gentledawn

  Kind of, sort of.

  I've learned a lot from people's anger at Old testament Jehovah's actions. Never really thought much about how big a wank he really was, including when he supposedly had a she-bear shuffle out and kill 42 children because some prophet was called "baldy-waldy" and couldn't handle it.

  Or Lot offering his daughters to the nest of rapists outside his door, in order to protect his male (allegedly angels-with-no-powers) guests. And then he has sex with those same daughters later on, who conveniently give birth to literal rival/enemy nations of Israel. Uh huh. Of course it was scheming women who are to blame for that, too.

  Or how the one patriarch didn't want his sons to give a woman a child in the name of her dead husband. When his male children kept dying because of being forbidden to give her a baby in the womb, she dolled herself up as a harlot and had sex with the patriarch instead.

  And of course none of the men throughout the bible are counted as "whores" or "harlots" for sleeping with multiple partners. just like modern day prostitution: only the prostitutes are commiting a crime and almost never the "john".

  Speaking of "Johns": when was the last time the WT named anyone/thing as part of the supposed "John-class"?

  Hmmm...
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  Frazzled UBM

  As someone who is an atheist but was never a JW I find the vehemence of some of the believer/atheist debates a bit startling. While I feel strongly motivated to show the WBTS is WRONG, I do not feel the same way about Christians or Muslims or Buddhists (but if faced with a Mormon or a Scientologist may feel the need to have a go at them for shunning etc.) I feel that if someone has a belief which is not harmful to them or others and it makes them feel good, then who am I to judge. But that doesn't stop me from putting forward my opinions.
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  Frazzled UBM

  As someone who is an atheist but was never a JW I find the vehemence of some of the believer/atheist debates a bit startling. While I feel strongly motivated to show the WBTS is WRONG, I do not feel the same way about Christians or Muslims or Buddhists (but if faced with a Mormon or a Scientologist may feel the need to have a go at them for shunning etc.) I feel that if someone has a belief which is not harmful to them or others and it makes them feel good, then who am I to judge. But that doesn't stop me from putting forward my opinions.
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  baltar447

  It also frustrates me to no end I have to avoid it. I've gotten into it on Facebook with people and it never ends well. It all comes down to "god hasn't opened your heart to understand" and I am like wtf lol. I'm done with people that believe the bible god. The bible god is an unfathomable psychopath and I'm done with that.
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  Caedes

  I found that eventually it all just sounds like people arguing over whose unicorn looks the best.
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  Phizzy

  If someone believes the Bible to be the word of god, they have not studied it, and probably have never read it in its entirety.

  What I find annoying is the naive " Bible says " attitude, the Bible has no Provenance and no proof from within its pages that it should be respected as an authority on anything.

  In fact, it is just about useless in the 21st Century, our moral standards are way, way higher, our knowledge of Science shows it to be ignorant of basic facts/truths that even a 21st Century child knows, and our knowledge of History based on Archaeology,and Geology etc blows its stories and claims right out of the (Noachian) water.

  I can't be arsed to debate with Bible believers anymore, they simply are too lazy to do the homework I have done. As I said on another thread, we know everything they know, but we also know a lot more, and that extra knowledge leaves us in the comfortable position of no longer "chasing after fairy tales."
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  confusedandalone

  " It all comes down to "god hasn't opened your heart to understand""

  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS is what burns me up. Everything that is used to make a point comes back to this. Science is useless unless it somehow supports the garbled beliefs. Common sense and moral values are useless unless it agrees with the bible. When the bible has something in it so deplorable that even they can't relate them obviously mankind has altered that part. I just cant take it sometimes

  ALso I was in the camp that if the belief doesn't hurt anyone then it is ok, but belief in the bible often leads to the birth of more people who carry these same beliefs who eventually will or can do something to affect the world around me.