by ILoveTTATT 7 Replies latest jw friends
Hi!
I have tried to find the talk Fear of Giants... apparently there are various versions and I need to find the version that has him recommending the book Angels and Women. What part of the talk? (I DON'T want to listen to hours and hours of talks...)
Please help me... Apparently it's at 9:53 but I can't find the reference... I have two versions, found at
http://www.printcentralandsigns.com/jwtalks/COVisits/DOCOVisits.html
Are there more??
Never mind... found it... I just need technical help now...
How can I make a video that shows just a black background and the transcript of the talk?
What you could do is pull out the audio from the video, and add in the letters for the visual part. Or if you'd like, a picture of the transcript depending on how you want it to look. I know how to do it with a Mac, never tried a PC for that though it can be done
Now I need to find out what the date of that assembly was... I really need to know WHEN the talk was...
What point do you want to make connecting Herd to Angels and Women?
I'm curious because there are so many contradictions surrounding the novel Angels and Women. Is the work supported by the org or is it considered banned material? Many witnesses don't know about it. The few that know about it think it's just creepy and a smaller crowd think it's a great work of the imagination.
You're not going to mention the automatic writing claim are you?
Well yes... It doesn't matter if the book was written by automatic writing or not...
If it WAS, then WT loses.
If it WASN'T, WT still loses.
The fact that they endorsed, sold, and still recommend and have that book in the Gilead Library means a lot!! Even if it wasn't written automatically, why would the WT endorse a book that SUPPOSEDLY was written that way?
You are so right about that statement in the foreword of Angels and Women. I understand where you’re coming from but I actually enjoyed the novel. I recommended it to a witness friend a number of years ago. Since I was so embarrassed by the foreword comments section I recommend them only read the Seola version.
Here’s something you may not know. I had a chance to see an original first edition version of Seola. Did you know the author was able to convince the publishing companies of the late 1800’s to keep her name out of the book? It was as if she wanted to remain anonymous or something. This is where I think this book ties into the old leadership of the WT. Rutherford or someone else liked this anonymous nature and thought it aligned well to how WT literature is not credited to individuals. No one person from the writing department is allowed to have their name in the book they worked on, with the exception of Russell and Rutherford.
Also, If you do a comparison of Seola to Angels and Women you get a glimpse of the major differences. As per the foreword of Angels and Women: Who was the one inspired by the fallen angel? Was it the reviser of the 1924 version or was it the original author of the 1878 version? Now that sounds really funny.
Ok so DefenderofTruth helped me a lot to find clues to the date of the talk, and it's 1983. Here's why:
"listen to the first minute, he says "if you have the 1975 yearbook at home", not 'this years' and he says 'if you have'. So this is a good few years on from 1975..
For the next clue (and to be honest the mentality displayed here in the talk seriously needs a thread of its own, if you ever get around to it, it is disgusting and dangerous, but anyway..), please listen to minutes 16-18, he talks about Cabrini Green in Chicago. Listen carefully, he mentions that 'a couple of years ago the mayor tried to go in and clean up the place', for publicity or to get reelected, words to that effect.. (aha, got it, I thought) .
A google search revealed that happened in 1981.. I will forward you the proof.."
"In March 1981, as an effort to demonstrate a commitment to making the complex safer, then-Chicago Mayor Jane Byrnemoved into a fourth-floor apartment in the 1160 N. Sedgwick building with her husband for three weeks. [ 11 ] [ 10 ]Backed by a number of police officers and a substantial personal bodyguard presence, she stayed for only three weeks, and this incident contributed to public perception of Cabrini–Green as the worst of the worst of public housing."
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabrini%E2%80%93Green
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH!!
