The Greatest COVER UP in History!

by refiners fire 8 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  refiners fire

  Well, some buggers pulled the "Finished Mystery" link I was using, off the net.So I cant cut and paste the quotes I was going to use.

  Concluding on the matter of that famous/infamous book (and also, in fact, the entirety of the teachings of CT Russell)
  I am caused to wonder,
  how it can be that something declared a Divine Revelation can be almost TOTALLY in error??
  We are not talking 90 percent correct and 10 percent error, not 75 percent correct and 25 percent in error.
  We are talking almost TOTAL error.
  90 percent error and 10 percent correct.
  I believe I am being generous in allowing even that much.

  A few examples from the Watchtowers interpretation of Revelation:

  pre 1930:
  The White horse rider of Revelation 6- interpreted as Satan, now interpreted as Christ.

  The 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse from Revelation 6- interpreted as plagues and wars from the history of mankind, now interpreted as events fullfilled in WW1 and the 1918 Flu epidemic.

  The great earthquake of Revelation 6- interpreted as the Lisbon earthquake of 1755 (?), now believed to be a symbolic ending of human rule of the earth, occuring post 1914.

  The "trumpets" of Revelation 8- interpreted as the writings of CT Russell, now interpreted as a series of speeches and WT articles delivered between the years 1922 and 1928.

  The two Witnesses of Revelation 11- interpreted as the Old and New Testaments, supressed by papacy, now interpreted as the Org resurrected after Rutherford was freed from jail.

  Babylon the great, interpreted as papacy, now interpreted as All religion other than the dubs.

  I could go on and on.

  I doubt more than 5 percent of pre 1920 Witness prophetic intepretation is still valid in any way.
  Their entire pre 1930 interpretions of the books of Daniel, Ezekial and Revelation have been abandoned.
  The "Gentile times" is the only thing that carried over from Russell.
  Almost total disconfirmation.
  Its the worst Ive ever seen.
  Much worse than the Mormons.
  Infinitely worse than Adventism,(who at least dont HIDE their failed prophecies).
  Worse even than Benjamin Creme of the "Share International" org.
  The Witness Org heirachy know of this shocking degree of disconfirmation of their prophetic "truths".
  And their guilt is manifest in their subconscious by their concealment of all that was Russell, and all that was pre approximately 1930.
  The coverup is MASSIVE, in fact, it is on a par with the degree of their prophetic ERROR.
  The bigger the mistake, the bigger the cover up needed to conceal it.

  CERTAINLY, the greatest religious historical cover up of the century, maybe of all time.
  Staggering..
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  Larsguy

  Interesting topic. My only comment would be you should use "Russel's teachings" loosely when applying it to the 7th Volume. The Forward of the Book claims it was written to prove Russell was the "faithful and wise servant" something he publically denied.

  In addition, as recently as volume 6 of "Studies in the Scriptures" it was noted that Revelation's reference to the dragon was Satan himself as the Bible says. The 7th Volume contradicts that and assigns another meaning.

  This book was the work of J.F. Rutherford without the help of the original editors who worked with Russell who would have never written this book or approved it. Rutherford knew this and thus had the book financed privately (the first edition before he gained control over the company). I wouldn't thus exactly call it Russell's teachings but more clearly Rutherford's.

  Speaking of "cover-up" though, the current WTS doesn't acknowledge that it was a critical change in WTS doctrine that the "faithful and wise servant" was Russell as promoted in the 7th volume. They insinuate only some dissident followers of Russell "adopted" that belief for a while for some reason and it was later cleared up in 1927. They don't admit that it was WBTS new doctrine and required reading for 10 years in the 7th volume. If claiming Russell was the "faithful and wise servant" was an apostate teaching, then their own President, JF Rutherford, was the Chief Apostate since it was the writings in this book that changed the doctrine about Russell being the FAWS (FDS).

  By the way, the first edition was published by the "People's Pulpit Society" independent of the WBTS, but after Rutherford got full control of the organization and ousted the other board members later editions were put out by the WBTS. It was by far the largest selling book by the organization up to that time.

  Just a few more details.

  Anyway, the "cover up" is still going on!!!

  Thanks for the post!
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  ballistic

  Refiners, to what extent do you think their commentary style bible "translations" written as "gospel" in the way the society does - ADDS to scripture, something forbidden on the last page of that book of Revelation?
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  refiners fire

  the "faithful and wise servant"

  This term makes me realize how cunning the Watchtower organization
  really is.

  There are two related passages of scripture, one referring to the "faithful and wise steward"(Luke 12 v 42) and the other to the "faithful and discreet slave"(matthew 24 v 45).
  Of course, both passages refer to the same thing, or personage.

  In the old days the Watchtower org used the scripture at Luke 12, refering to Russell as the "faithfull and wise steward", but once Russellism was booted, they switched to the Matthew 24 v 45 scripture when referring to their "collective" servant. Why would they do that
  other than that the terminology is slightly different.
  That they did it to distance themselves (as much as possible) from their former claims regarding Russell,while establishing their new claims regarding the collective...I have no doubt.

  That is how slippery and pathetic they really are.
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  refiners fire

  Ballistic:
  Below is a quote from a book by a Christian fundy called Norman Robertson.He is expositing an interpretation of scripture by making INSERTIONS into his scripture quote.
  

  ...."Ezekial 38 1-3: 'Now the word of the Lord came to me saying, Son of man, set your face against Gog [Russian premier Gorbachev] of the land of Magog [USSR] the Prince of Rosh, [Mikhail Gorbachev] Meshech,[modern day Moscow] and Tubal' [modern day city of Tobolsk]"....

  Far as Im concerned, the guy is a false prophet, hes using scriptural authority for his erroneous predictions.
  Heres another one from a Fundy called Hal Lindsey:
  

  ...The most important sign in Matthew has to be the restoration of the Jews to the land in the rebirth of Israel. Even the figure of speech 'figtree'has been a historic symbol of national Israel.When the Jewish people...became a nation again on 14 May, 1948 the fig tree put forth its first leaves...

  There was a big debate in the thread I pulled these from as to whether a guy was a "false prophet" if he didnt directly claim God as his authority.
  Personally, I think anyone expositing scripture interpretation better make it real clear that what hes saying is his own opinion.
  If he doesnt, and hes wrong, far as Im concerned, hes a false prophet.
  Just my opinion.
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  hooberus

  Larsguy,

  You said that Russell publically denied being the "faithful and wise servant" do you have a reference for this?

  In the beginning Russell taught that the FDS was composed of a class. BUt as early as 1896 (over 20 years before the "Finished Mystery") Russell started teaching that the FDS was an individual. In 1900 and 1904 year Watchtowers he argued for the slave being an individual. He also published several letters during his lifetime which praised him as being the salve. It seems that he promted the idea of him being the slave.

  You are correct in saying that in the year 1927 the teaching that the FDS is a "class" was returned to. Although the current leaders of the Watchtower Society have covered up their history by saying that there was a classs all along.
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  Larsguy

  You said that Russell publically denied being the "faithful and wise servant" do you have a reference for this?

  My reference to this is only what has been stated by the WTS, specifically in the 1975 Yearbook and later in the "Proclaimers" where they quote the early reference. But if you have more direct information where he publically identified himself as the FDS then that would just be proof of more lying by the WTS who claims he never "publicly" admitted it.

  So if you can get the direct quotes for us from those references you mentioned that would be great!! Other than that, I'm not aware of Russell changing his mind about that issue.

  But the MAIN POINT is that, as debatable and vague as that might be; he may have only insinuated an individual but never directly applied it to himself, the "7th Volume" does this directly and thus it became upfront OFFICIAL WTS DOCTRINE for ten years via the "7th volume" until 1927 when they, indeed, did change this reference.

  If you can get ahold of the 1975 YearBook the quotes are there for the references, but of course, they are covering up the fact that Rutherford was a pro-Russellite FDS campaigner shortly after his death, stating as noted that the book was designed to PROVE he was this FDS. I don't have access to all my reference materials right now.

  If you can come up with the referenes you mention then we can make a comparison and I will stand corrected if Russell did change his mind earlier.

  Thanks!

  L.G.
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  refiners fire

  Watchtower June 1, 1900, article: "That servant".
  Watchtower April 15, 1904, article:"Like unto men who wait for their Lord".

  These are probably the articles referred to.

  Russell never claimed publicly to be the slave (as far as I know) but in the early 1900s he presented evidence in the WT indicating that the slave was an individual, not a collective slave.

  The May 1, 1904 WT, the issue following one of the WTs listed above,
  contains an interesting article called "Only the humble shall be exalted". An interesting article, in view of current thinking on the slave being an individual.
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  plmkrzy

  An interesting article, in view of current
  thinking on the slave being an individual.

  ???

  
  

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