Circuit Overseer Lloyd Payne

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  • LogCon
    LogCon

    Did anyone know him? He toured the western Canadian Provinces when I knew him in the 70's but heard he left wife and organization. Any truth to it?

  • Lets Think
    Lets Think

    I knew him, he served our congregation mid 70s. I heard in the early 80s he ran off with a young pioneer sister. He left his wife,, they were both dfed. Not sure where he is now. He was a fun guy, I really liked him.

  • L3G
    L3G

    He was still CO in 1979:

    LETHBRIDGE, Alta. (CP) Door-to-door evangelism has almost become the trademark for Jehovah's Witnesses and the Church of Jesus Christ of Later-day Saints (Mormon). Both churches say they are visiting households as the Bible says Jesus and His disciples did and as scriptures instruct them to do. . Chances are most people answering the door won't be interested in having a discussion but it is unlikely that the contact will be ended with a slammed door. "It's overstated," says Lloyd Payne, a visiting Ontario Jehovah's Witness circuit supervisor who has been going to the doors of the public for 18 years. . " People may boast to their friends they did it but in fact they didn't do it. Most people are at least polite." Larry Marleau, a Witness elder in Lethbridge, agrees. "I can't remember the last time the door was slammed in our face," Marleau says. People are generally polite, say local Mormon missionary officials. "Most people, even if they are not interested in our church, like to talk about religion," says Dr. Jon Cooper, Lethbridge East Stake mission president. Began in 1920s !a'. For, the Witnesses, door-to-door evangelism began In the 1920s, some 50 years after a group of Bible students In Pennsylvania formed the church. Marleau says the church used motion pictures, radio and literature to get out its gospel In the early days. "But we felt, the best way to communicate the message of the Bible is to stop and visit with a person face to face at the door," says Payne. The Witnesses say 90 per cent of their members ring doorbells. That translates Into almost 300 members locally from the three Lethbridge congregations. - - "It's a requirement continually to promote the good news of. the kingdom," says Payne. "We're all encouraged to share.": The church uses an organized procedure for producing door-to-door missionaries, which involves personal Bible study and learning basic teaching techniques. "Usually our people do the evangelizing work on a part-time basis," says Marleau. "But there are 120,000 globally that do it full-time and they finance themselves by working in part-time endeavors." Witnesses will visit a house on average at least three or four times a year, even if the occupant indicates he is not interested. "Some time we find they're more receptive when they're in a different mood," explains Marleau. For the Mormons, however, a householder who says he is uninterested in the church likely won't be visited again unless by accident.says Cooper. ' Going door to door, or "tracting" as the Mormons call it, is a less open-ended procedure for them than for the Witnesses. There are far fewer missionaries visiting homes, only 186 in Alberta and just eight In the Lethbridge area, says Cooper. But those 186 are full-time workers; the familiar white-shlrted twosomes seen carrying briefcases and sporting short haircuts. They serve two years. More than 80 per cent of active male Mormons become missionaries for the prescribed two-year period. Girls spend 18 months on a mission. During this period, the missionaries, some as young as 19, are totally engrossed in spiritual matters from 6 a.m. to 10:30 p.m. "When they're missionaries they're in the world but not of the world," says Cooper. "That means no TV, radio or newspapers, for example." Baptism into the church is the short-and long-range goal of the Mormon visits, an objective reached In only one of 1,000 calls. For the Witnesses conversion is also the ultimate goal but not necessarily the Immediate goal. "The basic objective is to help people understand the Bible better," says Payne. "The person does the conversion himself," says Marleau. Going door to door simply presents the facts and logic so the sound mind can make the decision.

    Found online, dated 10 Nov. 1973, p. 73 of the Ottawa Journal "Religion" section.

  • Quarterback
    Quarterback

    He is still out west with his 2nd wife.

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