It's All About Context

by Joe Grundy 8 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Joe Grundy
    Joe Grundy

    It’s All About Context

    I never was a JW - I was raised in the ‘Gospel Hall’ tradition (i.e. fundamentalist evangelical) where every male (not you, sisters) was encouraged to be their own bible scholar. Unsurprisingly, divisions over minor (to outsiders) matters of doctrine and theology led to splits and divisions and so on and so on. (This is was happened, of course, in the early days of the Millerites leading to the Bible Students, Adventists, Christadelphians, et al). Not surprising except when one is taught about divine inspiration, divine protection of doctrines, etc. How could a god be so careless that he preserved his holy writings for thousands of years and yet couldn’t make his message so clear that there were all these divisions?

    But I digress. As a child, I accepted what I was told – just as I would have done of any religion depending where I had been born. I never questioned the painted ‘God is Love’ banner at the Gospel Hall even as I listened to the OT stories – you know what they say.

    My paternal grandfather was a coal miner in a small Welsh village. In his youth he was bare-knuckle boxing champion of his valley. He was ‘converted’ in the mass ‘Revival’ in the early twentieth century and he and a couple of others built a small gospel hall (we called it the ‘tin tabernacle’). Much was forbidden, and some of my earliest memories are of visiting his house as a small child. He had a plaque (‘Christ is the unseen listener to every conversation’ etc.) and his (uneducated but sincere) faith was such that if the bible (always KJV) said that Jonah had swallowed a whale, he’d have believed it. There was also, of course, a confusion between Temperance and the Revival. He was keen to teach me ‘God is Love’ in Welsh.

    As a young teenager I went to a very small pentecostal church (AOG) and then to a Welsh (tradition, not language) chapel. Rebelled as a teenager, but in my early 20s came back to it.

    And that’s where it started. I was now an independent thinker, keen to learn more – and why wouldn’t you, if your faith was so important to you? So I started researching, wanting to learn more. No internet in those days, so it was a long process.

    So to the subject of this piece. I quickly learned that context is all important. What was happening, what were the influences, the pressures, the background, when something was written?

    (As an example, I moved to live in Cyprus 2005-2010. The best reliable recent history of that troubled and new bankrupt island is the ‘Contexts’ section of the Rough Guide. History as taught on the island depends on which side of the divide you are, and the autocepholous Greek Orthodox church is far from a reliable source.)

    I was always interested in the history of the Roman empire and looked for mentions of this in the NT. After all, Palestine was a hot bed of unrst, revolution, religious mania, etc. To my surprise, any mentions are minimal and guarded. The Roman occupation was as brutal and overbearing (or more) as, for example, the Nazi occupation of Europe and yet, and yet ...

    Minimal references to ‘tax collectors’, ‘carry his coat an extra mile’, ‘render unto Caesar’ and so on. And, of course, the execution. Quite clearly the responsibilty of the jews in the NT, while the reality was that it was an execution for sedition – just like so many others.

    And then, of course, the reality that if the NT didn’t start to be written until after 70AD – after the sack of Jerusalem, after Masada, and if you were Paul/Saul essentially starting and promulgating a new ‘gnostic’ religion (‘I never met him but this is what he told me in a vision, it’s not about overthrowing worldy powers it’s about a kingdom in heaven’) within the Roman Empire – you wouldn’t want to base it on the person of someone who was executed for sedition.

    Those were my thoughts, and to be honest the internet has made research so much easier.

    Some people – committed JWs and others, and we should include devotees of all religions in this, from muslims, buddhists, sikhs et al – will never (and may never, on pain of death) question their religion and its teachings. Those of us who live in liberal democracies and CAN question these things are lucky, I think, and have a duty to do so.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    I can relate to many of your sentiments. Your last comment about the advantages of living in a liberal democracy remind me of the W.E.I.R.D. acronym...Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, and Democratic.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2010/10/western-educated-industrialized-rich-and-democratic/181667/

  • Joe Grundy
    Joe Grundy

    Thanks jgnat - interesting piece.

    I am, I suppose, sometimes a little cynical (30 years as a police officer can do that to you). Most of my time was as a detective, and ten years was as a commander of a Fraud Squad. There one learns to dissemble b/s by careful, repeated, to-the-point questioning, noting the answers and not moving on until the question has been answered. Not so different, it will be noted, as the advice given here so many times when actively questioning JWs about their message.

    But, as a human being with feelings, I never challenge someone's faith - it's theirs, however irrational and they may need it. Offer pointers, maybe.

    My intellectual questioning is about people who in normal life are rational, even cynical, demand evidence, question everything and yet in their 'faith' persona can accept the unacceptable wearing the 'goggles of faith'.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    I was thrown off-balance last week when I had an after-workout discussion with my Yoga teacher. I am loving his class and I am relaxed, stronger for participating it.

    But it turns out he's a dedicated conspiracy theorist! A wingnut! A seventy year old dude with the body of a man half his age, and he got tangled up in all that conspiracy crap. It took all of my diplomatic skills to exit gracefully out of that discussion. I WILL NOT be looking up the authors he recommended me. He decided we agreed our world is in trouble, but for different reasons. He at least had the grace to find something in common in our discussion.

    So should I bother disturbing his worldview, or let it alone? I don't know. There's a few authors I would like to send his way, too!

  • KateWild
    KateWild

    Thanks for your story, and thanks for coming to this site for 8 years even though you were never a JW. Your story really encouraged me. Kate xx

  • Joe Grundy
    Joe Grundy

    It is a huge responsibility, I think, to question someone's faith, especially if it's something they rely on.

    My nephew died several years ago, a young teenager, in a senseless road accident. His mum (my sister) and his dad cling to their beliefs and this has no doubt helped them in their grief. I would not dream of saying anything to challenge them.

    I now take the view that unless and until someone tries to push their views on me I will say nothing.

    I have had many thoughts about islam, though. I realise that to challenge their core beliefs - scrutinise their source documents as one can freely do with OT and NT - is to invite death.

    May be my next area of research!

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Funny how hubby has no compunction about inserting his beliefs about the afterlife, every time he hears about a death. I furiously tell him to can it...grief is no time to impose a belief system on others.

  • Joe Grundy
    Joe Grundy

    Thanks, Kate honey. xx

    JGnat: It can be awkward, especially if in a situation (e.g. a funeral) where words are spoken to console the grieving but in which I have no belief. Best, I've found, to keep my mouth shut. I have no wish to upset anyone especially at a time of bereavement. But if I'm asked for comment, I'll give it. Cosmic dust we came from and to cosmic dust we'll return.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    Re. the Thread Title, but slightly off what the thread is actually about, I was thinking this morning of how the JW's take scriptures out of context, and cause deaths by their faulty interpretations.

    With the Blood doctrine, it is based upon a scripture in Acts telling the story of the little conference in Jerusalem where James sets down the requirements for Gentile converts to Christ. Ignoring the doubtful veracity of Acts and assuming this took place as written, the context is dietry requirements for those new Gentile christians, requirements for 1st Century converts.

    (Paul elsewhere seems to negate these instructions interestingly).

    Our friends in Orthodox Judaism have no problem with saving life by the use of blood, and hence accepting blood tranfusion, as they know what are dietry laws and what are not.

    A 21st century ban on a life-saving medical procedure can be seen for what it is, a dangerous nonsense, when the context is considered.

    Ditto with the JW shunning policy, which has caused a number of suicides, read the context of the scriptures they base it on and you will see what a terrible twisting their view is.

    Those who teach, and support such false doctrines have Blood on their hands.

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