The Normal Heart (movie)

by rebel8 5 Replies latest jw friends

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    Finally got the guts to watch it last night. It was so heartbreaking.

    I was a partially brainwashed teenager when the story depicted in the movie happened, a few hundred miles away. I remember the advocates' angry outbursts on TV and the dying men in hospital beds, holding hands.

    Being a sheltered jw, I had no exposure to homosexuality and only the twisted teachings of the wts to taint my views. It was all so confusing to me.

    There was an awesome scene in the movie when the main character was talking about his pattern of sex with strangers and said he did not realize it was possible for a man to love a man. And his partner replied, "It's natural for men to love. They have to learn not to."

    I got thinking about babies and how they just love naturally. And it occurs to me that society had taught these men that loving each other is not natural, and they believed it.

    I suppose such hate is a weapon as effective as those the wts uses.

    Deep subjects for your Saturday afternoon.

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    I had forgotten that President Reagan didn't say the word "AIDS" aloud for a few years either. (There is some argumentation about this...but even those who defend him do not claim he spoke about it publicly early on.)

    I was terrified of getting the disease, and had friends die of it, due to being in another high risk group. I secretly was deeply thankful for Gay Men's Health Crisis and ACT UP for the work they were doing.

    I had also forgotten the Church condemned condoms then too.

  • jamiebowers
    jamiebowers

    I watched that movie when it first premiered on HBO, and you're right, it is heartbreaking. As a jw I watched the news about hospital and funeral workers refusing to be around AIDS patients. Although I believed homosexuality to be a sin at the time, I couldn't believe that there wasn't some other way to handle working around these dying people. How sad we are as a society!

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    Ok, so I have been really deep in thought about this movie and why it affected me so much. Here's what I figured out, in case anyone is still reading this.

    I don't know why I need to talk about this but it is bothering me, so here goes.

    In the 80s I was a jw teen with hemophilia in NY, where the AIDS crisis essentially began in the US. I had not had my medicine for a long time because of dubbery.

    Once news came out about AIDS, the dubs practically tripped over themselves jumping for joy, that jehoopla was vindicated. I remember that being said at the conventions and the thunderous applause. It was like when he told the jews to bury their poop--he had his reason and you should follow it by faith even before science tells you why.

    Everyone expected me to be gloating over this more than most, because I had risked more by not taking blood. Barf. Instead I just found that attitude despicable.

    I was in the 4H Club, as they called it, and the dubs pretty much thought all of us were evil. Haitians because of voodoo, homosexuals, heroin addicts, and hemophiliacs because the root of the word means "like blood" and jehovah hates people who like blood.

    My peers were dying and I was terrified. No one seemed to be actually taking action to stop this crisis, only to gloat over the sinners who deserved the virus.

    That is, no one except ActUP and Gay Men's Health Crisis, who were speaking out, advocating and actually helping people.

    National Hemophilia Foundation took money from organizations who deliberately distributed tainted clotting factor for profit and testified against their own members in court.

    My supposed advocates were turncoats at the worst moment in our history, when we needed them the most. And gay men's advocates were providing housing, comfort, and getting laws passed to help stop the spread of the disease and treat it. Sometimes they were even using in-your-face tactics to push for change. Mine were helping the enemy.

    Could homosexuals be so evil then? Could a loving, intelligent god really feel that a penis in a vagina=good but a penis going in an opening 2 inches south of the vagina=totally evil?

    I remember seeing dying men holding hands in the hospital, and thinking that seems so sweet and loving. How is this evil? It gave me the opportunity to examine what I had been taught by the dubs.

    So my religion betrayed me by not letting me get medical care and then pretending as though god made the rule because he knew about this virus, and my advocacy organization betrayed me. The only ones who seemed to be doing the right thing were ActUP and GMHC. Which one of these organizations is good and which is evil, I wondered.

    I am grateful to GMHC and ActUP for reducing the spread of the virus. I probably owe my negative status to them.

    Thanks for listening.

  • Quendi
    Quendi

    I have not yet seen this movie, but I appreciate the thoughts you've shared here, rebel8.

    Quendi

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    rebel8:

    but a penis going in an opening 2 inches south of the vagina=totally evil?

    Now that sentence wakes up another issue. Its the concept of anal sex that seems to get a lot of guys disturbed. But it seems that there are claims that on any given night in the big cities of the world, there will be more male/female couples having anal sex than male/male couples.

    And yet, there are no biblical grounds for saying that male/female anal sex is wrong.**

    And, what about the guys who are emotionally attracted to women (heterosexual desire) and yet find anal stimulation exciting?

    I hope this youtube video doesn't cause anyone offense?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w-Rhd8x6WU

    But, it does illustrate how complex the whole topic can be!

    ** aside from the amazing theorists in the WTS.

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