Canada and illegal immigration, What's life like for them?

by BucketShopBill 2 Replies latest social current

  • BucketShopBill
    BucketShopBill

    I had friends from Hong Kong who were able to move to Canada but moved back after People's Republic was not as bad as they thought and they ended up making lots of money doing PIPEs. To move to Canada, you had to have over $5,000,000 in assets, more cash the better and you had to create jobs, Immigration I can understand. The same with the Indian Community, when Simon was a child, he probably saw few Indians, now there are thrieving giant Indian communities highly skilled contributing to Canada's success.

    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130312140934AAPiPZshttp://blogs.vancouversun.com/2013/05/18/hong-kong-immigrants-streaming-out-of-canada/

    Can you explain if Canada is welcoming the Latin American Community and has the money and funds to give them work and healthcare? Yahoo Answer had this, is this stuff correct?

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    • bw022 answered 1 year ago

    It is almost impossible to survive in Canada illegally. Canada has an extremely well-integrated social and taxation systems which make it extremely difficult.

    Without proof of legal residency you can not obtain a driver's license, social insurance number, enroll in school, apply for health insurance, open a bank account, etc. Canada Revenue Agency is extremely careful in checking that companies are remitting payroll taxes and verifies SIN numbers. Canadians do not hire illegals as in the United States. Finding any job is next to impossible. Even applying without a valid SIN risks someone calling Canadian Border Services on you. Lack of bank account, credit history, or Canadian ID makes renting difficult. All foreign banking transactions are forwarded to CRA, the RCMP, and Canadian Border Services.

    There is no free health care in Canada for non-legal residents. In order to apply for provincial health care, you must submit proof of legal residency (citizenship, permanent residency, study permit, or work permit), your SIN (verified against CRA records for your income), and proof you live within the province (bills, driver's license, etc.) There is no better education in Canada for non-legal residents. In order to enroll into any public (or private) school you must have proof of citizenship or your parent's legal residency (with you listed), plus proof you live in the school district. You also need this to enroll in any university. Foreign students pay insane rates in universities/colleges and must apply for student permits.

    There are only an estimated 40,000 to 60,000 illegals in Canada. Almost all are hiding in relative's basements. Canada doesn't have an illegal immigration problem simply because without a few weeks or months of being in Canada most people give up.

    Also, crossing the border is not easy. Most areas have fences, patrols, motion sensors, and/or private property whose owners don't simply allow people through their property. Areas which aren't fenced or patrolled are so remote that you have issues of how you physically get there and that you are dozens of miles away from civilization on the other side. Locals typically ask the question what you are doing on a remote road 50km away from the nearest town? Where is your car?

    If you are an American, I don't know why you need to sneak into Canada. Get a passport, enter legally, and then just don't leave. See what it is like visiting the country for six months and trying to find an apartment, job, health care, school, etc. Looking for work or school is just as illegal, but it saves you the hassle of trying to cross illegally. After a few months, I'm sure you'd give up. https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130312140934AAPiPZs

  • prologos
    prologos

    it was said somewhere that there are way more social security numberes issued then there are residents. One prominent middle east player is said to have 6 North American sin nos.

    health insurance cards have no ID , picture feature. 2 reporters exchanged cards and went out to get treatment, examinations using the other's card, not just as a gag.

    there was a bus commuting across rhe border from the US with a provincial health card as part of each seat sold.

    members of closed communities can play the system well, legal or not.

    it is like the natural world, camouflage well.

    any activity is economic, adds to the gnp.

  • Jeannette
    Jeannette

    Bucket-you are absolutely right. I have dual citizenship, Canada and the U.S. but when my mother got sick in '08 I decided to move back to take care of her. I had to get a SIN card and all the rest. They gave me a health card in March but made it retroactive to January so they are very nice to people that do things legally and that's the way it should be. As it turned out she passed on so I just came back to Tennessee, but I still have all the documents and I show them to certain people for a conversation.

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