WTS - words they wish forgotten

by TR 4 Replies latest jw friends

  • TR
    TR

    C.T. Russell:

    "There is no organization today clothed with authority." (WT 9/1/1893 p. 458)

    "A visible organization is out of harmony with God's divine plan." (WT 12/1/1894 p.1743)

    "Beware of 'organization.' It is wholly unnecessary." (WT 9/15/1895 p. 1866)

    vs.

    "Brother MacMillan later wrote:'...In essence we showed that the Society is wholly a religious organization; that the members accept as their principles of belief the holy Bible as expounded by Charles T. Russell....'" (1975 Yearbook p. 106)(bold mine)

    "He does not impart his holy spirit and an understanding and appreciation of his Word apart from his visible organization." (WT 7/1/1965 p. 391)

    TR

  • Scorpion
    Scorpion

    What about:

    "WE cannot take part in any modern version of idolatry- be it worshipful gestures toward an image or symbol or the imputing of salvation to a person or an organization." WT 11/1/1990 p.26

    "identtifying themselves with Jehovah's organization is essential to their salvation." OUR KINGDOM MINISTRY, 11/1990,p.1

    There are so many contradictions, it is hard to pick which ones to post.

  • thinkers wife
    thinkers wife

    TR and Scorpion,
    Keep those quotes coming, I love 'em.
    TW

  • logical
    logical
    The change in the Dedication Questions in the Baptism Ceremonies of all JWs worldwide.

    Question #2 used to state:

    "On the basis of this faith in God and in his provision for redemption have you dedicated yourself unreservedly to Jehovah God, to do his will henceforth as that will is revealed to you through Christ Jesus and through God's Word as His Holy Spirit makes it plain?" (See Wt 1970 pg. 309 par. 20)

    New Question #2 (the more improved version)

    "Do you understand that your deication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization?" (See 6/1/85 Wt. pg. 30 par. 3,4)

    In the new improved question, you are no longer directed by (a) Christ Jesus, (b) The Bible and the leadings of the (c) "holy spirit," of God.

    So, how are JWs now led...how? Well, JWs can no longer make the claim they are led by Jesus, the Holy spirit and the bible, no, no, because of the change, yes...since the year of 1985, since they are NOW DIRECTED by the "organization," the "spirit-directed organization," WHICH TAKES THE PLACE of (a) Jesus Christ, (b)The Bible and the leadings of the (c) Holy Spirit of God.

    Which Questions posed to the baptismal is MORE BIBLE BASED...which? Which one is a "commandment of men," which?

    I think you can answer that one.

    Well, that's the improvement of the questions in 1985, five years after the "Bethel Breakup", and 10 years after the "1975 teaching," perpetrated by the "spirit-directed organization," Headquartered in Brooklyn New York. That's the change, that's the improvement.

    Yes, these are proven "commandments of men," "traditions of men," yes idolatry, "creature worship" all accepted and practiced by JWs, and the WTS. All neatly, swept "under the rug," and dismissed as "never, ever happening at all." They never made any such changes in their "dedication" ceremonies...this never happened, or it is of "little consequence," to them. Yes, they are free from any involvement of "creature worship," idolatry, worship of man, and his traditions.

  • RR
    RR

    Here is a clasic:

    The Watchtower is not the instrument of an man or any set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in the Watchtower. W11/01/31 p. 327

    If we have love for Jehovah and for the organization of his people we shall not be suspicious, but shall, as the Bible says, 'believe all things,' all the things that The Watchtower brings out... QUALIFIED '55 156

    (This one is regarding Job 40:15 to 41:34, where "leviathan" is interpreted as a train locomotive)

    Thou wilt lengthen out leviathan (the locomotive) with a hook (automatic coupler) or with a snare (coupling-link) to drop down. Wilt thou not place a ring (piston) in his nostrils (cylinders) or pierce through his cheeks (piston-ends) with a staff (piston rod)? Will he make repeated supplications unto thee (to get off the track)? Or will he utter soft tones unto thee (when he screeches with the whistle)? ... Wilt thou play with him as with a bird (make him whistle at will)? Or wilt thou bind (enslave) him for thy maidens (so that you can take them to a picnic or convention)? Companies (of stockholders) will feast upon him (his earnings).. The Finished Mystery, 1926 ed, p 85

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    Never take a laxative and a sleeping pill on the same night.

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