Some have been bringing Josephus up again...

by HowTheBibleWasCreated 2 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • HowTheBibleWasCreated
    HowTheBibleWasCreated

    1. Josephus lived from 37 to around 100 CE. In his works he mentions every detail evn if it's hearsay. For instance we KNOW from him the 4 sects of Judasm at the time and Christians are NOT amoung them. He does however mention a small sect which is likely a Logoos-Philo sect. (To throw the christians a bone)

    2. In War of the Jews he claims a Cow gave birth to a sheep......<<<< Okay.... he liked oral stories.

    3. He refers to himself as Josephus in his accounts, Not I, thus assuming the role of a hero in the story.

    4. Suicidal. He wasn't. But he made other commit suicide while he watched. It's in his account.

    5. He claims a guy named Jesus preached Jerusalems destruction around 69-70 and was crushed by a rock... I am starting to doubt this sotyr it sounds like an ealry Jesus legend he borrowed via oral traditions from philo's Logos cult.

    6. Titus and his we buddies. and the men he went to see were Simon and John and James the brother of Jesus the high preist.... why do I think Galatians chapter 12 is a forgery? ... because the only one who could have those names in those places was Jospehus in 69-70... Galatians was a rehash of several of his works I think. (By Marcionites)

    7. This guy had 3 failed marriagesd... the first I will admit she died in Jerusalem.. and her husnamd a friend of Titus didn't once bargin for her life?... A$$hole!

    8. The people that liked his books were Romans and Christians. They were the copiests.

    9. I don't belive he was a Pharisee.

    10. Luke-Acts relies on his works... this only goes to show his writings preceeded them.

    So many here in the last week quoated Jospephus... I do often to but only when i'm sure it's a fact... 50% of what he wrote was not fact and to add to it so many forgeries like John the Baptist and Jesus were added

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    Strange he doesn't mention any of Jesus' miracles.

    His writings come to us via manuscripts, the oldest of which is 10th Century, we know later ones were tampered with, but of course the very oldest may be far from reliable.

    Even so, what we do have is more a testimony against the Historicity of the Gospel Jesus than anything else.

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    I suggest you read Josephus. Your facts are wrong. Modern historians take Josephus with a grain of salt. Josephus was at Massada, where Jews committed suicide rather than surrender to the Romans. He cannot be trusted if he is a single source. There are other problems with Josephus as a historian that I can't recall. Josephus did not have the best character. Wikipedia must have an article on Josephus.

    The Witnesses deliberately distort so much history to fit their agenda. Josephus was mentioned so much by the WT that I just want to puke when I hear his name. Also, Josephus writes after the emergence of gentile Christianity. Jewish belief and the form of Christianity dominant are opposed to each other. Christ is God is not a Jewish notion. One must be aware of the bias of both sides.

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