Closing in on the Genetic background to Same Sex Attraction

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  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    Many Christians keep insisting that homosexuality is a choice, and they are 'right' to insist on legal prohibitions (in spite of living in a pluralistic Society).

    They claim divine revelation as basis for these legal prohibitions. Sadly for them, it does look their God is somewhat schizoid on this matter.

    If Yahweh IS the source of sanctions against those who are sexually attracted to the same sex, then we would not expect any genetic indications for that attraction. IF you think along those lines, the this report from the UK Independent will interest you.

    Largest ever study into the gay gene 'erodes the notion that sexual orientation is a choice'

    The study analysed the genetic code of 818 gay men to find common genetic markers, but scientists say it's a far cry from finding the 'gay gene' itself JAMES VINCENT Author Biography Friday 21 November 2014

    A new scientific study of 409 pairs of gay brothers could put to rest decades of debate over the existence of the so-called ‘gay gene’.

    Research conducted by the NorthShore Research Institute in the US found clear links between male sexual orientation and two specific regions of the human genome, with lead scientist Alan Sanders declaring that the work “erodes the notion that sexual orientation is a choice”.

    The study is three times larger than any previously done and highlights two genetic regions that have been tied to male homosexuality in separate research: Xq28, first identified in 1993, and 8q12, spotted in 2005.

    However, Sanders does not claim to have identified a single gene which ‘causes’ male homosexuality in humans and stresses that with complex human traits like sexual orientation there are many influencing factors, both genetic and environmental.

    For the study Sanders and his team collected blood and saliva from 409 pairs of gay brothers and analysed their genetic code for markers known as single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs).

    Although Xq28 and 8q12 were the two regions that were most frequently identified as home to genetic markers common among the 818 gay men, three other SNPs were also highlighted.

    Speaking to the New Scientist, neuroscientist Simon LeVay commented: “This study knocks another nail into the coffin of the 'chosen lifestyle' theory of homosexuality.”

    "Yes, we have a choice in life, to be ourselves or to conform to someone else's idea of normality, but being straight, bisexual or gay, or none of these, is a central part of who we are, thanks in part to the DNA we were born with,” said LeVay, who previously claimed to have found a region of the brain that was smaller in gay men.

    However, the announcement is unlikely to be met with great acclaim in the LGBT community, with Samantha Allen at The Daily Beast pointing to the murky history of conclusive evidence for any genetic causation.

    She writes: “If it’s hard to get excited about these studies, it’s because, at this point, biological explanations for homosexuality are like iPhones—a new one comes out every year.”

    Commenting on the research to The Independent, Richard Lane of LGBT rights charity Stonewall echoed Allen's reaction, saying: "While some people may choose to focus on the continuing debate of whether people are born gay or not, we'll continue to focus on making sure everyone has the same rights and opportunities regardless of who they love."

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    Did someone say gay JEANS?!?!?!?!

    DD

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    Just another example of science challenging the Bible.

    [sarcasm]

    Doc

  • LisaRose
    LisaRose

    Even if they found a gay gene the fundies would still think it's a choice, just like they still believe the fairy tales of Genesis happened like the bible says. They need to believe in God and the bible, facts don't really enter into it.

  • Island Man
    Island Man

    Great pun, DATA-DOG!

  • Apognophos
    Apognophos

    LOL @ DATA-DOG.

    Unfortunately, proving that there's a genetic basis doesn't end the argument. The comparison that some fundies make is to alcoholism. "Sure, it can be based in genetics, but that doesn't preclude someone from fighting against it or mean that it's okay to give in to it. It's just one of many possible sinful tendencies that we might inherit through these imperfect genes of ours."

    However, the difference is that the sex drive is more or less the most basic instinct of all, and it cannot be suppressed or redirected by sheer willpower. Trying to do so will only damage a person.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Apognophos - "...the difference is that the sex drive is more or less the most basic instinct of all, and it cannot be suppressed or redirected by sheer willpower. Trying to do so will only damage a person."

    Very important to remember.

    Sexual repression inevitably leads to sexual deviancy - the kind that can hurt others.

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