When JW's say, "the farther we get from Adam..." to explain Autism, illness etc. is it just denial?

Wasanelder Once

I am so sick of hearing JW's blame everything from Autism to hangnails on our proxemity to the existence of no-navel-man Adam. They thereby betray their own lack of personal responsibility for their poor physical and mental health on Adam. Just maybe a little more work to afford a doctor visit once in a while wouldn't hurt? Or stop driving around all day in a crappy car eating junk food, get off your butt and acutally walk? My opinion is that they have this magical Adam complex where they blame everything on him and again deny personal responsibility. What have you experienced with this mindset?

quellycatface

Oh it DOES my head in. What about cures for diseases? People died of simple viruses 60 years ago. Medicine has worked wonders.

There are some seriously paranoid witness folk out there who blame all their ills on this system.

Lose weight you idiots!!!

notsurewheretogo

Here in lies how sneaky the cult is...

I was 280 pounds in my twenties as a pioneer and lived a bad lifestyle of junk food and little excercise but hey I was a min srevant and a pioneer and why did I need to look after my body when the End is so close and I'll have the prfect body anyway. Cut down on saturated fat? Cut down on salt? Walk?

You gotta be kidding.

What a dangerous, dangerous thought to live by and that is what I mean by a dangerous cult. It destroyed my responsibility to look after myself.

The realisation of TTATT and the need then to make this "one-shot at life" count meant for me a drastic life style change. I'm vegan, I don't eat processed food especially junk food and now weigh 140 pounds and cholestrol, salt intake all normal.

But that thinking in that "the new system will sort me" is prevalent in many other areas of a dubs life...and it is a very dangerous one.

respectful_observer

When JW's say, "the farther we get from Adam..."

A little off topic from the OP, but this past week's WT study talked about Adam and Eve "died" the day they sinned...even though they lived until 900+ years old. Several commenters mentioned that they lived so long beacause they were "closer to perfection". While sitting there, it dawned on me that JWs apply reverse logic to Adam & Eve's situation compared to survivers of Armageddon:

Adam & Even (and other early-Bible characters, Methusulah, etc.):

Physical perfection: Near perfect, lived for nearly 1,000 years

Mental/Behavioral perfection: Far from perfect. After all, Cain was the first birthed generation from perfection and committed murder.

Post-Armageddon:

Physical perfection: Survivors will slowly "grow" to physical perfection.

Mental/Behavioral perfection: Apparently*, all survivors will immediately think/behave perfectly.

DATA-DOG

The WTBTS teaches a "gradual" return to perfection because the subliminal message that the GB will always be needed is a cornerstone teaching. Whatever happens in JW-land, you can NEVER allow the belief that you are somehow okay to exist. There must ALWAYS be an ultimate authority above you, one that can wipe you out of existence for satanic thoughts.

The funny thing is, the GB teach that "little" imperfections will be healed instantly. For instance, glasses, crutches, missing limbs and the like will all most likely be healed immediately. They reason the Jeehoober wouldn't make you spend 50-100 years in a wheelchair after the big A. That's unloving. However, he will disintergrate you for disobeying in your mind at anytime during eternity.

Look. Genetics are a crap-shoot. You get what you get. Sometimes it ain't fair. Reality sucks. That reality doesn't sit well with some people. They turn to a fantasy for emotional support. Sure things are tough, but I have the only true religion. Sure my kid has cancer, but God loves me, and he will fix it....SOMEDAY.

The JW "Elsewhen" fantasy is equivalent to God needing another angel in heaven, and that's why babies die. The fall from perfection teaching is also an emotional blanket that you can hide under when you must face reality. Why did Sister Oldtimer die, the End is close, right? Why is baby pioneer so sick? Why do I have depression? Why do I have to go through menopause? Why did my grandparents die? Why do I have cancer? Why does Jehovah let this old system continue? WHY, WHY, WHY????

Some people cannot handle reality. It is what it is. All you can do is take control of what you can control. That's it.

DD

Separation of Powers

The life expectancy of mankind throughout the earth is longer than EVER in the history of mankind....the farther and farther we get from the mythological ADAM.

Vidiot

I once asked my devout JW mom, "if we're getting farther and farther from 'perfection', why aren't my kids stupider than me?"